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Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
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Vacuum Museum
Original Message   Aug 27, 2009 1:46 pm
Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #53   Sep 3, 2009 5:53 am
Severus wrote:
Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying.  CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop.

I like the fact that CR is listing the cost per bag in the latest vacuum listings.  Useful info.  The microfiber bag for the HOOVER bagged Platinum at $5 is HEPA rated and appears larger than ORECK's and similar with the self-sealing collar that traps all the dirt inside when removed/replaced.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #54   Sep 3, 2009 5:56 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Are you speaking from experience about BB replacements?



No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #55   Sep 3, 2009 6:00 am
BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB.  Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too. 

BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick.  Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad.   

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #56   Sep 3, 2009 6:13 am
HARDSELL wrote:

I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use.  If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market.  The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.



HS:

Where you stands depends on wher you sit.  The ORECK ad on the side banner here shows the dual team Silver series upright and canister for $299, just like the HOOVER Platinum bagged whish you praise.  The most overpriced vacuum on the market today is OWNED by your fave brand.  Its the handheld 30/31 for $270 plus $60 attachments.  You like to impugn ORECK for the giveaways.  The DC31 at $270 should come witha  full size DC07 free!

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #57   Sep 3, 2009 8:02 am
HARDSELL wrote:

I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use.  If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market.  The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.


HS:

From my own perspective, the ORECK will do better on the lower pile carpets than the HOOVER.  HOOVER better on the higher.  In part the latter is due to the wheels on the HOOVER vice the ORECK.  Of course, the HOOVER has more umph!  That's technical jargon for suction.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #58   Sep 3, 2009 10:58 am
CarmineD wrote:
BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB.  Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too. 

BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick.  Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad.   

Carmine D.


Thanks for the HSN/Hoover insight.  The idea of the vacuum is to pick up not leave behind, 50 years as an "indie-pro" and you're not aware of this?  How many of these dogs do you think HSN sold during this Hoover demo and how many of these dogs could you sell using this Hoover demo (as in the above pics)?

In the Hoover demo...  if the HSN director moved the camera back any farther (in an attempt to hide the fact that the 2009 Consumer Reports ranked #2 vacuum is crapp) the cameraperson would encounter nose bleeds.


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #59   Sep 3, 2009 1:40 pm
HS/DIB:

I'm not critiquing the pros and cons of the HOOVER bagged.  I personally used it and was not impressed with its performance on low level carpets.  It does not have a rug height adjustment.  Nor does ORECK.  But ORECK beats HOOVER on low carpets.  HOOVER beats ORECK on high.  So there's a trade off with both in comparison. 

Now, my real point is don't be sore loser.  HOOVER probably has more vacuum products in the latest CR ranks and ratings that are CR praiseworthy than any other brand in history, period.  If nothing else, give credit where its due.  And HOOVER earns it.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #60   Sep 3, 2009 9:24 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood. 

Carmine D.



You must have read the Black Tie Geek Squad plan.  Not the same as when I the Oreck manager paid for my DC07 over 3 years ago.  BTW, I have had two TV's replaced under ESP agreements.  No hassle whatsoever.  Try that with an indie.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #61   Sep 3, 2009 9:30 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

ORECK's have to be used daily/almost daily for the most efficiency and effectiveness as a standalone upright.  That's their forte.  Quick and easy to pull out and use often.  That's why they are used in hotels and motels!  If you don't use ORECK's daily, then plan to have a full size deep cleaner like a HOOVER for your weekly vacuuming.  Especially with medium to high pile carpets.  And use your ORECK for the high traffic areas and/or ad hoc clean ups in between the weekly HOOVER vacuuming.  I'm almost positive I've said that many times here before.  I know you don't read and comprehend very well:  Ref: Your misunderstanding of BEST BUY ESP and product replacements.

WRT trickery, if telling the truth is your view of trickery, then you are absolutely right.  No maybe's about it. 

Carmine D.


I am just as positive that I have said that your requirements are different from mine.  I do not vacuum daily.  Most of the time we go barefoot leaving shoes at the door.  I have no furry pets.  We do have some fish but they are confined to the aquarium.  I no longer drive daily. When I do I want a vehicle capable of getting me where I want to go.  Not one that is only capable of operating in controlled conditions.

I know what the hotel industry uses.  That is why they do not have clean floors.  Do you really think those minimum wage housecleaners care how good the carpet is cleaned?

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #62   Sep 3, 2009 9:34 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You must have read the Black Tie Geek Squad plan.  Not the same as when I the Oreck manager paid for my DC07 over 3 years ago.  BTW, I have had two TV's replaced under ESP agreements.  No hassle whatsoever.  Try that with an indie.

You seem to abuse that return policy or defective product returns. You wont get away with it at with expert indys [thats why you dont do business with them]
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