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Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Vacuum Museum
Original Message   Aug 27, 2009 1:46 pm
Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/
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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #51   Sep 3, 2009 12:41 am
Severus wrote:
Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying.  CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop.


I agree....and i noticed that at the shop...kinda steep-  But i feel the trade off /end results/bag size  are worth the expense.....ive talked to a couple people who have one and they love it on med pile...tons of traffic in the house with pets/kids....lots of carpet....and the new wally review/post  would justify the cost....but would like to see $3 a pop.

turtle1

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #52   Sep 3, 2009 3:40 am
CarmineD wrote:
HOOVER bagged Platinum on sale at Wal*Mart for $298: 


4.857 out of 5 4.9 out of 5
(14 Customer Reviews )
Hoover Platinum Bagged Upright Vacuum
Number 2 rated upright by Consumer Reports.  Microfiber bags are pricey at $5. a pop but huge.  Comes with companion canister. 6 year warranty.  13 pounds.  HOOVER's famous Windtunnel Technology. Who can ask for anything more. 
Carmine D.

Ranked #2 at Consumer Reports?  Underhanded Hoover/Knock-off Hoover must of made a substantial "donation" to CR's - "we're millions of dollars short (again)" fund.  View the Chinese owned, operated, manufactured (and maybe Chinese government sponsored) Hoover "Bad boy" destroy the dirt on the HSN demo (below).  The images clearly demonstrate CR's prowess and unsurpassed understanding of vacuum testing and ratings.  


DIB


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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #53   Sep 3, 2009 5:53 am
Severus wrote:
Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying.  CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop.

I like the fact that CR is listing the cost per bag in the latest vacuum listings.  Useful info.  The microfiber bag for the HOOVER bagged Platinum at $5 is HEPA rated and appears larger than ORECK's and similar with the self-sealing collar that traps all the dirt inside when removed/replaced.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #54   Sep 3, 2009 5:56 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Are you speaking from experience about BB replacements?



No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #55   Sep 3, 2009 6:00 am
BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB.  Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too. 

BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick.  Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad.   

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #56   Sep 3, 2009 6:13 am
HARDSELL wrote:

I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use.  If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market.  The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.



HS:

Where you stands depends on wher you sit.  The ORECK ad on the side banner here shows the dual team Silver series upright and canister for $299, just like the HOOVER Platinum bagged whish you praise.  The most overpriced vacuum on the market today is OWNED by your fave brand.  Its the handheld 30/31 for $270 plus $60 attachments.  You like to impugn ORECK for the giveaways.  The DC31 at $270 should come witha  full size DC07 free!

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #57   Sep 3, 2009 8:02 am
HARDSELL wrote:

I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use.  If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market.  The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.


HS:

From my own perspective, the ORECK will do better on the lower pile carpets than the HOOVER.  HOOVER better on the higher.  In part the latter is due to the wheels on the HOOVER vice the ORECK.  Of course, the HOOVER has more umph!  That's technical jargon for suction.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #58   Sep 3, 2009 10:58 am
CarmineD wrote:
BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB.  Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too. 

BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick.  Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad.   

Carmine D.


Thanks for the HSN/Hoover insight.  The idea of the vacuum is to pick up not leave behind, 50 years as an "indie-pro" and you're not aware of this?  How many of these dogs do you think HSN sold during this Hoover demo and how many of these dogs could you sell using this Hoover demo (as in the above pics)?

In the Hoover demo...  if the HSN director moved the camera back any farther (in an attempt to hide the fact that the 2009 Consumer Reports ranked #2 vacuum is crapp) the cameraperson would encounter nose bleeds.


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #59   Sep 3, 2009 1:40 pm
HS/DIB:

I'm not critiquing the pros and cons of the HOOVER bagged.  I personally used it and was not impressed with its performance on low level carpets.  It does not have a rug height adjustment.  Nor does ORECK.  But ORECK beats HOOVER on low carpets.  HOOVER beats ORECK on high.  So there's a trade off with both in comparison. 

Now, my real point is don't be sore loser.  HOOVER probably has more vacuum products in the latest CR ranks and ratings that are CR praiseworthy than any other brand in history, period.  If nothing else, give credit where its due.  And HOOVER earns it.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #60   Sep 3, 2009 9:24 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood. 

Carmine D.



You must have read the Black Tie Geek Squad plan.  Not the same as when I the Oreck manager paid for my DC07 over 3 years ago.  BTW, I have had two TV's replaced under ESP agreements.  No hassle whatsoever.  Try that with an indie.
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