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HARDSELL
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #47 Sep 2, 2009 8:36 pm |
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Knew youd come around sooner or later.....appears to be hope for you yet HS....But if i may ask, what is it you like so much about the Rbw? turtle1
Hi 'turtle1' As the saying goes, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. HS did. Jumped ship [HMS dyson] before it sank. Carmine D. I haven't actually come around and I haven't jumped ship any more than Carmine. The DC07 did beat'em and closed Hoover as we knew it. Things change. Otherwise I would not consider Hoover. I am not a die hard fan of the newer Dysons although I think they are better than some lead others to believe. The Platinum is Hoover in name as the old Hoover only changed model names with no improved performance. I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
I know there is a life preserver left becuase Carmine did not take his when I offered and he sank with Hoover. Now he is holding to the Oreck anchor and sinking, turtle, I liked the cleaning ability and quality of the Rainbow. Hated to clean it and put it away with all the tools, hoses, etc. I am not a fan of cannisters.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #48 Sep 2, 2009 8:51 pm |
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HS: ORECK's have to be used daily/almost daily for the most efficiency and effectiveness as a standalone upright. That's their forte. Quick and easy to pull out and use often. That's why they are used in hotels and motels! If you don't use ORECK's daily, then plan to have a full size deep cleaner like a HOOVER for your weekly vacuuming. Especially with medium to high pile carpets. And use your ORECK for the high traffic areas and/or ad hoc clean ups in between the weekly HOOVER vacuuming. I'm almost positive I've said that many times here before. I know you don't read and comprehend very well: Ref: Your misunderstanding of BEST BUY ESP and product replacements. WRT trickery, if telling the truth is your view of trickery, then you are absolutely right. No maybe's about it.  Carmine D. Are you speaking from experience about BB replacements?
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #49 Sep 3, 2009 12:16 am |
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I haven't actually come around and I haven't jumped ship any more than Carmine. The DC07 did beat'em and closed Hoover as we knew it. Things change. Otherwise I would not consider Hoover. I am not a die hard fan of the newer Dysons although I think they are better than some lead others to believe. The Platinum is Hoover in name as the old Hoover only changed model names with no improved performance. I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
I know there is a life preserver left becuase Carmine did not take his when I offered and he sank with Hoover. Now he is holding to the Oreck anchor and sinking, turtle, I liked the cleaning ability and quality of the Rainbow. Hated to clean it and put it away with all the tools, hoses, etc. I am not a fan of cannisters.
I liked the 7 best of all dysons....but found some that did much better at a far lower price/just as durable....not a slouch but with all the hype i expected more i guess...so i was somewhat left unimpressed....and the fact that its bagless was also part of it......nor am i a fan of canisters....but the riccars are quite impressive on power/deep cleaning.....but no way id pay that much - no matter how much i love the brand. Orecks are great ..cmrcl/or low pile/ bare floor ,wonderfull to have and own...as i have a 2600 and love it.....great vacuum with a great warranty and service centers coast to coast...a great total package with a sleek new look. Once or twice id heard of the rainbows being used as shampooers/extractors on carpets.....never tried it or seen it done. Do they perform well? By the time we get a rainbow in the shop its about gone.....trashed from lack of or no maint...at all....i once saw one that looked as if it had moss growing in it...and still worked....sturdy no doubt but never really thought of them as a deep cleaner on low/med pile. turtle1
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #50 Sep 3, 2009 12:18 am |
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I haven't actually come around and I haven't jumped ship any more than Carmine. The DC07 did beat'em and closed Hoover as we knew it. Things change. Otherwise I would not consider Hoover. I am not a die hard fan of the newer Dysons although I think they are better than some lead others to believe. The Platinum is Hoover in name as the old Hoover only changed model names with no improved performance. I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
I know there is a life preserver left becuase Carmine did not take his when I offered and he sank with Hoover. Now he is holding to the Oreck anchor and sinking, turtle, I liked the cleaning ability and quality of the Rainbow. Hated to clean it and put it away with all the tools, hoses, etc. I am not a fan of cannisters. Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying. CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #52 Sep 3, 2009 3:40 am |
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HOOVER bagged Platinum on sale at Wal*Mart for $298: Number 2 rated upright by Consumer Reports. Microfiber bags are pricey at $5. a pop but huge. Comes with companion canister. 6 year warranty. 13 pounds. HOOVER's famous Windtunnel Technology. Who can ask for anything more. Carmine D. Ranked #2 at Consumer Reports? Underhanded Hoover/Knock-off Hoover must of made a substantial "donation" to CR's - "we're millions of dollars short (again)" fund. View the Chinese owned, operated, manufactured (and maybe Chinese government sponsored) Hoover "Bad boy" destroy the dirt on the HSN demo (below). The images clearly demonstrate CR's prowess and unsurpassed understanding of vacuum testing and ratings.  DIB  
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #53 Sep 3, 2009 5:53 am |
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Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying. CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop. I like the fact that CR is listing the cost per bag in the latest vacuum listings. Useful info. The microfiber bag for the HOOVER bagged Platinum at $5 is HEPA rated and appears larger than ORECK's and similar with the self-sealing collar that traps all the dirt inside when removed/replaced. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #54 Sep 3, 2009 5:56 am |
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Are you speaking from experience about BB replacements?
No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood.
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #56 Sep 3, 2009 6:13 am |
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I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
HS:
Where you stands depends on wher you sit. The ORECK ad on the side banner here shows the dual team Silver series upright and canister for $299, just like the HOOVER Platinum bagged whish you praise. The most overpriced vacuum on the market today is OWNED by your fave brand. Its the handheld 30/31 for $270 plus $60 attachments. You like to impugn ORECK for the giveaways. The DC31 at $270 should come witha full size DC07 free! Carmine D.
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