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Lucky1


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Points: 271

Vacuum Museum
Original Message   Aug 27, 2009 1:46 pm
Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #31   Sep 2, 2009 12:19 pm
DIB:

Here's the points.  First, dishonest business people regardless of product/services don't stay in business very long especially in a bad times.  Your mud slinging at all "dishonest indy's" is disengenuous.   Name a few if they're out there.  I'd like to know who they are.

Second, with the waning dyson sales in big box stores, what's Sir James/dyson to do?  Look around.  The indy's are going great guns picking up the sales and service of all makes and models.  So that's the route you/dyson have to go in the future.  IF it's not too late.  Make nice nice now, or they'll tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. 

Now that you know the points, you can agree/disagree.  But "can" the how great James art and your hero worship of him.  He/dyson still can't get a handheld that works properly even at $270 plus $60 for attachments and he and 500 engineers have trying for 7 years.  Maybe that's why he'll never be more than a back yard inventor.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #32   Sep 2, 2009 12:27 pm
BTW a side bar point is that dyson vacuums can't make the top tier of CR.  As a big box seller, if dyson can't make the CR list, retailers won't sell.  Why?  Because big box store vacuum buyers won't buy.  Big box retailers want mainstream products that move quickly off the shelf to turn over their inventories and make profits.   Dyson vacuums just accumulate dust and dirt: On the outside.

That's the other reason dyson needs to bow down to the indy's and kiss their butts to sell his vacuums.  Get your clothes pin to stick on your nose and pucker up.  Should be easy for you.  You have alot of practice with James.

Carmine D.

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #33   Sep 2, 2009 12:37 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

I like doing battle with you here (mostly) and want to encourage you to keep using “paraphrasing, I believe, I think, if my memory serves me, etc.” vice “you said” only.  Many times you misquote me and it’s tiring, it’s not ideal for getting a responding post.  So keep it up (only quote if you can produce my words and in context, and demonstrate the date of my posts).  You recently posted (suggested) I did not like independents, which is false.  I do indeed like independents, I loath the dishonest ones (there’s lots of em).

Do you have a point?  When we’re in a recession, people spend less.  Pre-recession, Dyson did $1-$1.5 annually.  Not bad for a backyard inventor, eh.

Perhaps Dyson should make a donation to the CR “can’t make it’s monthly nut fund” to insure a higher ranking/fair ranking.

Indeed the pathetic, low-life, dishonest indie/s not making enough money off Dyson products (per item) is an issue.  When Dyson reinvents the lowly vacuum cleaner, receives high reliability ratings, and then the bottom-feeder indie con bad-mouths the Dyson, ONLY so to make more money selling their exclusive and much higher margin (than Dyson) vacuums, is an isue.  Even if Dyson “kissed up” to these indie’s (had Miele-like margins and bag/belt sales/service sales), these “victims” still cannot get past their jealousy of Dyson.  Although, Dyson could get them into counseling or some other self-help program. - Maybe the dual-persona poster here could get some help too.


DIB


DIB,

Don't be such a sourpuss.  Dyson should be congratulated for making the top 10* in CR.  It is quite an accomplishment for the DC28. *Technically Dyson DC28 and the Kirby Sentria are tied with a score of 67/100 at #10 and #11, so the Dyson gets the 10 spot rather than the 11 presumably due to the Dyson name preceding Kirby in alphabetical order.  Perhaps it's luck of the draw who knows. 

If you only care about ability to clean carpeting, the upright vacuums rated excellent on carpeting are:  (#1)Hoover Windtunnell Anniversary, (#2) Hoover platinum bagged (at 13 pounds), (#4) the Hoover Tempo widepath, (#9) the Hoover Windtunel aniversary bagless, (#11) Kirby Sentria, (#13) Eureka boss 4D, (#16) Riccar Brilliance, and (#20) Riccar Supralite RSL4. 

Dyson needs to watch out.  The new Hoover Platinum bagless scored the same overall as the Dyson DC17 animal for a much lower price and better performance on pet hair.

In terms of bagless uprights, the Dyson is the 3rd highest bagless behind only Kenmore and Hoover .

Note to Hardsell:  The Royal Eminence model MRY9750 at $600 is rated #31 with 59 points.  



The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #34   Sep 2, 2009 1:32 pm
Severus wrote:
DIB,

Don't be such a sourpuss.  Dyson should be congratulated for making the top 10* in CR.  It is quite an accomplishment for the DC28. *Technically Dyson DC28 and the Kirby Sentria are tied with a score of 67/100 at #10 and #11, so the Dyson gets the 10 spot rather than the 11 presumably due to the Dyson name preceding Kirby in alphabetical order.  Perhaps it's luck of the draw who knows. 

If you only care about ability to clean carpeting, the upright vacuums rated excellent on carpeting are:  (#1)Hoover Windtunnell Anniversary, (#2) Hoover platinum bagged (at 13 pounds), (#4) the Hoover Tempo widepath, (#9) the Hoover Windtunel aniversary bagless, (#11) Kirby Sentria, (#13) Eureka boss 4D, (#16) Riccar Brilliance, and (#20) Riccar Supralite RSL4. 

Dyson needs to watch out.  The new Hoover Platinum bagless scored the same overall as the Dyson DC17 animal for a much lower price and better performance on pet hair.

In terms of bagless uprights, the Dyson is the 3rd highest bagless behind only Kenmore and Hoover .

Note to Hardsell:  The Royal Eminence model MRY9750 at $600 is rated #31 with 59 points.  


What is CR thinking.  The Royal is one of the best because i own it.  

Seriously, It is an OK vacuum, however, I do not get a warm fuzzy feeling that it deep cleans.  It does make the carpet look well groomed.  Sounds like an Oreck doesn't it.

I really liked my test drive of the Platinum bagged at Sears.  I plan to purchase on this week for a test in the home,  Sure wish I could sell the Kirby (and the Royal).  I ain't parting with the Rainbow. 

Hopint that you have a good day.  Mayve repair some Orecks.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #35   Sep 2, 2009 2:08 pm
HARDSELL wrote:

Hoping that you have a good day.  Maybe repair some Orecks.



Not for awhile.  The ORECK Pro-Plus upright/canister with one year supply of bags on sale at COSTCO for $298 comes with 2 free annual services at any of the 450 ORECK stores nationwide and a 3 year guarantee.  And rates the end cap position at my local COSTCO store. 

Carmine D.

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #36   Sep 2, 2009 4:19 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
What is CR thinking.  The Royal is one of the best because i own it.  

Seriously, It is an OK vacuum, however, I do not get a warm fuzzy feeling that it deep cleans.  It does make the carpet look well groomed.  Sounds like an Oreck doesn't it.

I really liked my test drive of the Platinum bagged at Sears.  I plan to purchase on this week for a test in the home,  Sure wish I could sell the Kirby (and the Royal).  I ain't parting with the Rainbow. 

Hopint that you have a good day.  Mayve repair some Orecks.



Hardsell,

Is it safe to assume that you think your Rainbow does a pretty good job of removing dirt from carpeting?   I really have a hard time believing that the Rainbow is the worst vacuum for cleaning carpeting among all vacuums tested by CR.  It seems so counterintuitive given that Rainbows are sold by in home demonstrations (certainly with some trickery), but they have to wow the buyer enough to spend an obscene amount of money. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #37   Sep 2, 2009 4:21 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
What is CR thinking.  The Royal is one of the best because i own it.  

Seriously, It is an OK vacuum, however, I do not get a warm fuzzy feeling that it deep cleans.  It does make the carpet look well groomed.  Sounds like an Oreck doesn't it.

I really liked my test drive of the Platinum bagged at Sears.  I plan to purchase on this week for a test in the home,  Sure wish I could sell the Kirby (and the Royal).  I ain't parting with the Rainbow. 

Hopint that you have a good day.  Mayve repair some Orecks.


Knew youd come around sooner or later.....appears to be hope for you yet HS....But if i may ask, what is it you like so much about the Rbw?

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #38   Sep 2, 2009 5:00 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
Knew youd come around sooner or later.....appears to be hope for you yet HS....But if i may ask, what is it you like so much about the Rbw?

turtle1



Hi 'turtle1'

As the saying goes, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  HS did.  Jumped ship [HMS dyson] before it sank. 

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #39   Sep 2, 2009 5:49 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

I like doing battle with you here (mostly) and want to encourage you to keep using “paraphrasing, I believe, I think, if my memory serves me, etc.” vice “you said” only.  Many times you misquote me and it’s tiring, it’s not ideal for getting a responding post.  So keep it up (only quote if you can produce my words and in context, and demonstrate the date of my posts).  You recently posted (suggested) I did not like independents, which is false.  I do indeed like independents, I loath the dishonest ones (there’s lots of em).

Do you have a point?  When we’re in a recession, people spend less.  Pre-recession, Dyson did $1b - $1.5b annually.  Not bad for a backyard inventor, eh.

Perhaps Dyson should make a donation to the CR “can’t make it’s monthly nut fund” to insure a higher ranking/fair ranking.

Indeed the pathetic, low-life, dishonest indie/s not making enough money off Dyson products (per item) is an issue.  When Dyson reinvents the lowly vacuum cleaner, receives high reliability ratings, and then the bottom-feeder indie con bad-mouths the Dyson, ONLY so to make more money selling their exclusive and much higher margin (than Dyson) vacuums, is an issue.  Even if Dyson “kissed up” to these indie’s (had Miele-like margins and bag/belt sales/service sales), these “victims” still cannot get past their jealousy of Dyson.  Although, Dyson could get them into counseling or some other self-help program. - Maybe the dual-persona poster here could get some help too.


DIB

No service center or dealers for DYSON around......would all this not be avoided if james were  to put these into play ?  Whats to stop this from happening? So since hes doing so well in our current economy....why not  get it done and avoid indys all together?Why not free shipping for dyson owners ....during wrty repairs?

REALITY..without the indys ,dyson  is dead in the water.... dyson needs them. they dont need him. dyson put himself in this situation..and now must deal with it...that or  do the  dealer/srvc cent  thing....but he wont.....wonder why that is DIB?......the only one with issues is dyson......your a nobody to dyson ,you dont exist in dyson land....so why do you care whos or how many butts hes gonna have to kiss to stay alive.....are you gonna be beside him puckered up and ready for work....are you gonna be the one he calls when all comes crashing down...bottom line dib-when a dyson breaks-send it back to dyson for repair....or one of his many dyson service/dealer  centers...problem solved.......and no more bad indys to deal with.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #40   Sep 2, 2009 5:58 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi 'turtle1'

As the saying goes, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  HS did.  Jumped ship [HMS dyson] before it sank. 

Carmine D.

HI CARMINE

Yup....life boats are filling fast. But we got DIB  a seat with his name on it.....so itll be waiting  on him.....nice, dry and cushy.....even got room for one of his 6min $200+hand vacs...cause were nice like that.

turtle1

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