Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/

Severus wrote:
Hi Severus,

I believe that the weight of the dirt picked up during the test would be compared against the initial amount of dirt put down for the test. The collection device of the vacuum tested -- dust bin or bag -- would have to be weighed before use and then after.

However, I've no idea of the prescribed time window for the test.

Venson

CarmineD wrote:

So we are to use CR as a guide ======unless it supports your argument.

You have been criticizing Dyson and supporting Oreck.  You hinted that the upcoming CR ratings would support your claims.

Now that it doesn't you brush CR ratings aside.

More BS.

Venson wrote:
I was under the understanding that it was actually the carpet sample that was weighed, both before and after cleaning.

Dusty

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

I thought we left off at Best Buy extended service plans and product replacements.  Did you do some homework and decide to pick up your sign.  There are alot left.

WRT CR [Consumer Reports], it's a starting place.  Gives shoppers a background and comparison of SOME of the available vacuum products, features and prices.  Retailers use CR as a way to determine what to carry/sell.  Retailers use CR to promote sales of particular brands. 

I made no mention of the October 2009 CR ratings and rankings.  Thank you very much.  The last prediction I made was in Dec 2008 in response to a poster here [Tomas] asking for comparison opinions on the SEARS Progressive upright [$250] and HOOVER WT Anniversary SP [$150] edition at COSTCO.  I said after recommending the HOOVER based on price and performance, that this partilcular HOOVER model may dethrone SEARS in the number one spot in CR in March 2009.  One of the many times, I was right.    I grow weary of correcting you all the time. 

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

Excuse me for chiming in.  I hope it's not the rug sample, tho I always say a rug can hold its own weight in dirt and look clean to the human eye.  I believe WRT Consumer Reports it's the mass/weight of the test materials before and after the vacuum is used.   

Carmine D.

CR is what it is.  For the most part their tests are really good.  However, they pick some type of dirt or other substance (e.g. saw dust, talcum powder, cat hair, etc) to use in their tests.  For most vacuums, it really doesn't make much difference.  However, there are some vacuums like the Rainbow that fail on non-wettable dirt.  While the Rainbow may perform ok on normal household dirt, certain kinds of dirt substitutes could clog the Hepa filter and kill performance.  Dyson's dirt collection system is a little more robust to different kinds of dirt.  I suspect most bagged vacuums work well on almost any kind of dirt.   Certainly some test dirts could clog bags/filters artificially fast.


HARDSELL wrote:

CarmineD wrote:
Good morning Carmine,

As it was explained to me (and it's quite possibly incorrect) CR clean and weigh a sample carpet, add 100 grams of whatever CR uses as dirt, use a machine to force the dirt deep into the carpet and then vacuum the carpet a set number of times.  When the procedure is done the carpet is reweighed to see how much of the 100 grams is gone.

Dusty

dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

I've never heard it being done that way.  But maybe its changed.

Carmine D.

Hi,

I just called Consumers Union -- (914) 378-2000 -- and, as per Severus, the organization considers this proprietary informormation. What's the big deal? I dunno.

The rep I spoke with did mention that the test material is made up of something like talc and sand but would elaborate no further.

Best,

Venson

The following link may be interesting to some.

http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_99-Vacuum_Cleaner_Testing_at_Consumer_Reports

Venson