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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Original Message Aug 24, 2009 11:58 am |
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There is talk of a boycott of British goods over the questionable release of the Lockerbie bomber Megrahi. Since Dysons are at least designed in Britain, I wonder if it will have any effect on them. Dyson might want to increase the size of the "made in Malaysia" stickers on their vacuums. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2603158/Americans-call-for-boycott-over-Lockerbie-bomber-Megrahi.html Personally, I don't believe in punishing an entire nation for the stupidity of their government officials. We've certainly had our share of stupid politicians in the US. *** Note that I am not implying that Dyson should be boycotted. I am only saying that a call to boycott British goods could have an effect on Dyson sales in the US. **
This message was modified Aug 24, 2009 by Severus
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #17 Aug 29, 2009 6:52 am |
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HS: I was wondering who would bring the dumb blonds into the conversation, now I know. Dyson advertises -never loses suction and never clogs. Today a customer came in for those reasons. The filter was stopped up, lost suction, the channels were clogged, and it cost the customer $20 -mainly for the time to find all the problems and show them what they were not doing. They traded the Dyson in . One because I outperformed it in suction and cleaning, two because they needed to go to someone that could take care of them and their cleaner, three and most important my reputation of taking care of my customers. Something they said they couldn't find with Dyson. Procare
No dumb blonds mentioned on this thread. Nor did I mention Dyson here. Looks like we now have a polock among us.
I am sure there are lots of good stories about ignorant or lazy users. How about the ones who bring in non working vacs with broken belts, over filled bags (if the vacuum will over fill it), foreign objects in the air paths, broken fans, and finally water. Should all those non Dyson makers post warnings of those things happening if you use the vacuum stupidly or is it user responsibility to READ THE MANUAL?
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CarmineD
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #18 Aug 29, 2009 7:22 am |
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HS: I was wondering who would bring the dumb blonds into the conversation, now I know. Dyson advertises -never loses suction and never clogs. Today a customer came in for those reasons. The filter was stopped up, lost suction, the channels were clogged, and it cost the customer $20 -mainly for the time to find all the problems and show them what they were not doing. They traded the Dyson in . One because I outperformed it in suction and cleaning, two because they needed to go to someone that could take care of them and their cleaner, three and most important my reputation of taking care of my customers. Something they said they couldn't find with Dyson. Procare
Hello Procare:
Thanks for the advice on troubleshooting the dyson. You probably know, or know of, Tom Gasko. Before dyson launched in the US, there were discussions of the best venue for its sales. He was already familiar with the product and opined that the best sales venue would be the indies because dysons' require training and familiarization by the users. INdies could do this with customers with demoes and answering their questions. After dyson ignored his advice, he then suggested a DVD instructional disk for users. Dyson didn't do that one either. I suspect alot of dysons' refurbs are customers who buy from big box stores and just don't know the product and how best to use it so they return. Read the d-manual like HS says? Takes an egineering degree and most users won't. LAst I counted it was 25 pages. I would say to James that it's not just enough to make a product work properly, but you have to ensure that customers use it properly. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #19 Aug 29, 2009 7:41 am |
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Hello Procare: Thanks for the advice on troubleshooting the dyson. You probably know, or know of, Tom Gasko. Before dyson launched in the US, there were discussions of the best venue for its sales. He was already familiar with the product and opined that the best sales venue would be the indies because dysons' require training and familiarization by the users. INdies could do this with customers with demoes and answering their questions. After dyson ignored his advice, he then suggested a DVD instructional disk for users. Dyson didn't do that one either. I suspect alot of dysons' refurbs are customers who buy from big box stores and just don't know the product and how best to use it so they return. Read the d-manual like HS says? Takes an egineering degree and most users won't. LAst I counted it was 25 pages. I would say to James that it's not just enough to make a product work properly, but you have to ensure that customers use it properly. Carmine D.
Even your friends with an engineering degree can't figure it out.
No degree or manual would be of value for owners of those bagless Hoovers with the screen filter. I wonder why you never criticized your previous favorite brand.
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CarmineD
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #21 Aug 29, 2009 8:43 am |
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Hard to say enjoy reading this. I didn't enjoy writing it. But truth needs to told. And Severus, thanks to his heads-up here, gives me the opportunity. The OP ED article in the LV Sun got it partly right. NJ leaders are banning Gadhafi from the state. In part, because of Libya's hero welcome of al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber convicted of killing 270 people. He was released from prison in Scotland last week for ill-health. Senator Corzine doesn't want Colonel Gadhafi coming to Englewood, NJ. Senator Lautenberg is seeking s visa from the State Department restricting Gadhafi to the geographic area in and around the UN. Good for the NJ Senators. What's the rest? Stories reported in London and New York over the last week, and not denied/responded to by UK authorities, say the release of al-Megrahi was a brokered business deal [a quid-pro-quo]. Nothing to do with al-Megrahi's illness. Prime Minister Brown, with sanctions from the British royal family, put pressure on Scotland to release al-Megrahi, despite Brown's denial of any involvement. Why? Money, oil, and years of business friendship. A British Petroleum senior exec, Sir Mark Allen, knighted by Queen Elizabeth, wants to arrange commercial contracts with Libya for oil and gas. 44 billion barrels worth. Sir Mark is in cohoots [read friends] with 2 British officials: Lord Peter Mendelson, Britain's business secretary and close ally of Prime Minister Brown and Ivor Lewis, a junior minister at the British Foreign Office and political ally of Brown. Mr. Lewis wrote an August 3, 2009 letter to Mr. MacAskill, Scottish Justice Minister, to release al-Megrahi. Shortly after, MacAskill complied citing al-Megrahi's health. Wrong! All are friends of Gadhafi's son, Seif al-Islam Gadhafi, and the heir apparent to the Colonel. Seif was educated at the London School of Economcs. Seif insisted on the release of al-Megrahi in order to go along with the BP deal. We all know now, and until PM Brown says otherwise, money talks in the UK even louder than the mass murders of 270 innocent people in 1988. Shame on Great Britain. Carmine D. |
CarmineD
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #23 Aug 29, 2009 1:00 pm |
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I want to say I was sorry about my remark in the wrong thread but what I said was in reference to ablond that probably couldn't plug in a plug.
Hello Procare: The Man
Surprised HS took umbrage at your post. You were after all defending a dyson buyer and user regardless of her intelligence. By attacking you, he asserted that dysons appeal to dumb blonds. Not very complimentary about dysons. HS may know how to plug a vacuum in, but he doesn't know how to turn it on and move it across the floor and rug. So he is in no position to criticize a poor dyson user. Carmine D. PS: As I recall, and it was Summer 2007, the young lady with the COSTCO Excl. dyson for $500 in tow with her child was also a blond. She told me she was returning her year old plus dyson because it no longer picked up as well as when it was new. I mentioned the filters and routine cleaning and her angry response was: I didn't pay $500 for a vacuum to have to clean its filters. I suspect she was referring to the the dyson mantra, no longer allowed: Doesn't clog, doesn't lose suction. She did get her money back when I inquired about it afterwards.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Boycott British products (i.e. Dyson)?
Reply #25 Aug 29, 2009 4:31 pm |
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Hello Procare: The Man Surprised HS took umbrage at your post. You were after all defending a dyson buyer and user regardless of her intelligence. By attacking you, he asserted that dysons appeal to dumb blonds. Not very complimentary about dysons. HS may know how to plug a vacuum in, but he doesn't know how to turn it on and move it across the floor and rug. So he is in no position to criticize a poor dyson user. Carmine D. PS: As I recall, and it was Summer 2007, the young lady with the COSTCO Excl. dyson for $500 in tow with her child was also a blond. She told me she was returning her year old plus dyson because it no longer picked up as well as when it was new. I mentioned the filters and routine cleaning and her angry response was: I didn't pay $500 for a vacuum to have to clean its filters. I suspect she was referring to the the dyson mantra, no longer allowed: Doesn't clog, doesn't lose suction. She did get her money back when I inquired about it afterwards.
Lighten up. I was not attacking.
If you think I am pushing a $500 vacuum you are not as intelligent as I thought. For that much money it should push/pull itself. How about stopped up bags. Really, should one have to replace bags and belts on a $700 to over $1000 Oreck or Meile? The dealer should make house calls to perform this service. How about those $100,000 cars that require new oil and filters. Or how about having to spend $40 for nitrogen in tires when air is free. What is this world coming to. BTW, the Dyson warranty at BB in 2002 was $19 and not $40 as you stated. Get your facts first.
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