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If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #50 Sep 3, 2009 12:18 am |
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I haven't actually come around and I haven't jumped ship any more than Carmine. The DC07 did beat'em and closed Hoover as we knew it. Things change. Otherwise I would not consider Hoover. I am not a die hard fan of the newer Dysons although I think they are better than some lead others to believe. The Platinum is Hoover in name as the old Hoover only changed model names with no improved performance. I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
I know there is a life preserver left becuase Carmine did not take his when I offered and he sank with Hoover. Now he is holding to the Oreck anchor and sinking, turtle, I liked the cleaning ability and quality of the Rainbow. Hated to clean it and put it away with all the tools, hoses, etc. I am not a fan of cannisters. Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying. CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #52 Sep 3, 2009 3:40 am |
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HOOVER bagged Platinum on sale at Wal*Mart for $298: Number 2 rated upright by Consumer Reports. Microfiber bags are pricey at $5. a pop but huge. Comes with companion canister. 6 year warranty. 13 pounds. HOOVER's famous Windtunnel Technology. Who can ask for anything more. Carmine D. Ranked #2 at Consumer Reports? Underhanded Hoover/Knock-off Hoover must of made a substantial "donation" to CR's - "we're millions of dollars short (again)" fund. View the Chinese owned, operated, manufactured (and maybe Chinese government sponsored) Hoover "Bad boy" destroy the dirt on the HSN demo (below). The images clearly demonstrate CR's prowess and unsurpassed understanding of vacuum testing and ratings.  DIB  
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #53 Sep 3, 2009 5:53 am |
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Although the Hoover is rated well, you should check the price of bags before buying. CR reports that the microfilter bags are $5 a pop. I like the fact that CR is listing the cost per bag in the latest vacuum listings. Useful info. The microfiber bag for the HOOVER bagged Platinum at $5 is HEPA rated and appears larger than ORECK's and similar with the self-sealing collar that traps all the dirt inside when removed/replaced. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #54 Sep 3, 2009 5:56 am |
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Are you speaking from experience about BB replacements?
No HS, I read the ESP material that BB provides and unlike you I understood.
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #56 Sep 3, 2009 6:13 am |
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I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
HS:
Where you stands depends on wher you sit. The ORECK ad on the side banner here shows the dual team Silver series upright and canister for $299, just like the HOOVER Platinum bagged whish you praise. The most overpriced vacuum on the market today is OWNED by your fave brand. Its the handheld 30/31 for $270 plus $60 attachments. You like to impugn ORECK for the giveaways. The DC31 at $270 should come witha full size DC07 free! Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #57 Sep 3, 2009 8:02 am |
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I wanted to like the Oreck because it was so easy to use. If it cleaned like the DC07 I might be using it today. Oreck (IMO) is the most over priced vacuum on the market. The Platinum has that Oreck feel, however, I believe it will be superior at cleaning. It is priced reasonably and should be a hit seller because of its performance and six year warranty. Not because it is sold with gimmicks and hyped advertising.
HS:
From my own perspective, the ORECK will do better on the lower pile carpets than the HOOVER. HOOVER better on the higher. In part the latter is due to the wheels on the HOOVER vice the ORECK. Of course, the HOOVER has more umph! That's technical jargon for suction. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #58 Sep 3, 2009 10:58 am |
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BTW HS I don't need a preserver, give the extra to DIB. Looks like he wants the HOOVER bagged Platinum too.  BTW, DIB, HSN was one of the first if not the first retailers to launch the HOOVER Platinum bagged and Lynx stick. Then again HSN and HOOVER are long time associates in good times and bad. Carmine D. Thanks for the HSN/Hoover insight. The idea of the vacuum is to pick up not leave behind, 50 years as an "indie-pro" and you're not aware of this? How many of these dogs do you think HSN sold during this Hoover demo and how many of these dogs could you sell using this Hoover demo (as in the above pics)? In the Hoover demo... if the HSN director moved the camera back any farther (in an attempt to hide the fact that the 2009 Consumer Reports ranked #2 vacuum is crapp) the cameraperson would encounter nose bleeds. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #59 Sep 3, 2009 1:40 pm |
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HS/DIB: I'm not critiquing the pros and cons of the HOOVER bagged. I personally used it and was not impressed with its performance on low level carpets. It does not have a rug height adjustment. Nor does ORECK. But ORECK beats HOOVER on low carpets. HOOVER beats ORECK on high. So there's a trade off with both in comparison. Now, my real point is don't be sore loser. HOOVER probably has more vacuum products in the latest CR ranks and ratings that are CR praiseworthy than any other brand in history, period. If nothing else, give credit where its due. And HOOVER earns it. Carmine D.
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