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Lucky1


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Vacuum Museum
Original Message   Aug 27, 2009 1:46 pm
Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #112   Sep 8, 2009 6:54 am
HS:

I can tell you've celebrated the Holiday weekend with too much liquid spirits.  Your posts are more illogical than normal.  After you read my post again, hopefully in a more somber mood, if you still have a question post and I'll answer.  It's clear to me I said I buy/use the indy brands myself [displays and demoes] and loan these to friends and family in need.  If they like them after using, they can buy from an indy. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #113   Sep 8, 2009 7:45 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I can tell you've celebrated the Holiday weekend with too much liquid spirits.  Your posts are more illogical than normal.  After you read my post again, hopefully in a more somber mood, if you still have a question post and I'll answer.  It's clear to me I said I buy/use the indy brands myself [displays and demoes] and loan these to friends and family in need.  If they like them after using, they can buy from an indy. 

Carmine D.



I was totally sober yesterday. I still am.

You constantly preach about the benefits of buying from an indie.  You then tell us that when we buy from a big box store we are not supporting the backbone of the industry.  You also tell us that the indie gets stuck with the repair of bb units when they fail.

Really, there is no excuse for you not following you own advice.  Regardless of how the vacs will be used. 

Please don't bore us by saying that the indie does not sell the cheapies.  You always say that they can fill all our vac needs from low to high end.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #114   Sep 8, 2009 9:03 am
HS:

Still hungover? 

Indie's sell the best made and performing vacuum brands and models.  Big box retailers sell the lo-mid-range of vacuums with the venue weighted towards disposables and cheapies.  I buy from both based on this premise for the products I'm buying.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #115   Sep 8, 2009 9:12 am
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

Now, doesn't your story with the lawnmower store owner/operator validate my precept too.  Home Depot sells cheap low end brand products [which BTW you prefer].  L/m store owner/operator sells high-end brand products.  Even you HS should get this since you posted it.  Unless of course you were soused yesterday when you posted.

My precept in business: You proved it: Indies are the backbone of the vacuum industry.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #116   Sep 8, 2009 9:29 am
CarmineD wrote:
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

Now, doesn't your story with the lawnmower store owner/operator validate my precept too.  Home Depot sells cheap low end brand products [which BTW you prefer].  L/m store owner/operator sells high-end brand products.  Even you HS should get this since you posted it.  Unless of course you were soused yesterday when you posted.

My precept in business: You proved it: Indies are the backbone of the vacuum industry.

Carmine D.


No it doesn't support you.  The indie is perceived to sell higher end due to price.  I have used both and the higher priced model left the lawn looking terrible compared to the lower priced unit.

I could buy two of the lower priced mowers for the same or less thatn the higher priced one.  The higher priced will not last twice as long and has inferior performance.

You are breaking their backs with your whimsical purchases.

dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #117   Sep 8, 2009 11:31 am
CarmineD wrote:
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

I'm glad everyone doesn't take your point of view Carmine.  $50 - $150 vacuums are a good part of our business.  Parents bring their kids in that are just moving out, university students, seniors looking for an inexpensive second vac for around the house.  We rely on all of them now and in the future.  Our prices are no different from the box stores and we offer free assembly and we handle the warranty.  Perhaps it's time to rethink where you're making your purchases.

Dusty
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #118   Sep 8, 2009 11:38 am
dusty wrote:
According to the VDTA there are over 18000 vacuum and sewing centers in North America.

Dusty

Thank you Dusty.

Can you break it down further?  1)  How many Canadian vacuum independents are there?  2) How many American vacuum independents are there?


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #119   Sep 8, 2009 12:18 pm
dusty wrote:
I'm glad everyone doesn't take your point of view Carmine.  $50 - $150 vacuums are a good part of our business.  Parents bring their kids in that are just moving out, university students, seniors looking for an inexpensive second vac for around the house.  We rely on all of them now and in the future.  Our prices are no different from the box stores and we offer free assembly and we handle the warranty.  Perhaps it's time to rethink where you're making your purchases.

Dusty



Dusty:

I'm happy to hear that from you.  Remember once you said I can't use myself as a standard because of my vacuum industry background.  Well here's a case where you are right.  When I go to a big box store to buy a HOOVER TEMPO or DD Kruz, I know exactly what I want to buy and why.  These purchases are genrally less than $100.  I don't need the expertise of an indy to assist in that purchase as most non-vacuum industry customers with $50-$150 to spend. 

In my years of the business, most parents pass down their indy store brands to the kids when they go off on their own.  Usually replacing it with a new indy store brand and having the old one repaied by the indy.  In fact 2 and 3 generations like this of customers keep my business humming for 44 years. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #120   Sep 8, 2009 12:29 pm
BTW Dusty, since you can't buy rebuilts from big box stores, I wholeheartedly agree in the $50-$150 price range indy's are the place for rebuilts.  In fact, many of the indy rebuilts are better than the the newer brands/models that are 2, 3, 4 and 5 times the price of the indie's rebuilts.  Way to go.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #121   Sep 8, 2009 12:39 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
  The indie is perceived to sell higher end due to price. 


You know HS if you substitute "dyson" for Indy I would agree 100 percent with your statement.

Carmine D.

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