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Lucky1


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Vacuum Museum
Original Message   Aug 27, 2009 1:46 pm
Thought the Dyson discussion board would be interested in reading a small article about the Tacony Museum. Also Carmine's old friend.....

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/08/new-museum-opens-at-st-james-on-historic-route-66/
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #109   Sep 7, 2009 5:53 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You should buy from the indies if you are going to preach the sermon.


CarmineD wrote:
That's exactly what I do and recommend others to do the same. 

Carmine D.

When did BB and Kohl's become indies?  Rember, all the indies on here are honest.


CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson:

MIELE and other quality brand names are giving people options/choices.  As you said, primarily with color.  It's cheap for them to offer many variations on the theme from low price to high.  Economies of scale.  Perhaps too MIELE, and canister maker for years and years, is making up for lost time.

A similar but not the same comparison is my recent purchases of two new HOOVER TEMPO uprights.  One the traditional Catalina blue from BEST BUY [in store purchase] for $70 and another a new white model from Kohl's at $54 [on-line].  Both perform the same.  Quite well in fact for the prices.  But my color preference in this particular model is for white. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #110   Sep 7, 2009 6:19 pm
HS:

The big box store purchases like the TEMPO's are new ones I buy to use/assess and gift then away.  The indy store brands I buy are displays/demoes that I keep for own use and loan to friends and family who are in need.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #111   Sep 7, 2009 6:54 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

The big box store purchases like the TEMPO's are new ones I buy to use/assess and gift then away.  The indy store brands I buy are displays/demoes that I keep for own use and loan to friends and family who are in need.

Carmine D.


So, you don't think yo.ur friends are worthy of a quality vacuum.

Besides you are taking a sales form a comrade.  What about service on the BB units.  You now stick it to some indy to cover a BB unit under warranty.

All this goes against you BS advice for others.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #112   Sep 8, 2009 6:54 am
HS:

I can tell you've celebrated the Holiday weekend with too much liquid spirits.  Your posts are more illogical than normal.  After you read my post again, hopefully in a more somber mood, if you still have a question post and I'll answer.  It's clear to me I said I buy/use the indy brands myself [displays and demoes] and loan these to friends and family in need.  If they like them after using, they can buy from an indy. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #113   Sep 8, 2009 7:45 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I can tell you've celebrated the Holiday weekend with too much liquid spirits.  Your posts are more illogical than normal.  After you read my post again, hopefully in a more somber mood, if you still have a question post and I'll answer.  It's clear to me I said I buy/use the indy brands myself [displays and demoes] and loan these to friends and family in need.  If they like them after using, they can buy from an indy. 

Carmine D.



I was totally sober yesterday. I still am.

You constantly preach about the benefits of buying from an indie.  You then tell us that when we buy from a big box store we are not supporting the backbone of the industry.  You also tell us that the indie gets stuck with the repair of bb units when they fail.

Really, there is no excuse for you not following you own advice.  Regardless of how the vacs will be used. 

Please don't bore us by saying that the indie does not sell the cheapies.  You always say that they can fill all our vac needs from low to high end.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #114   Sep 8, 2009 9:03 am
HS:

Still hungover? 

Indie's sell the best made and performing vacuum brands and models.  Big box retailers sell the lo-mid-range of vacuums with the venue weighted towards disposables and cheapies.  I buy from both based on this premise for the products I'm buying.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #115   Sep 8, 2009 9:12 am
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

Now, doesn't your story with the lawnmower store owner/operator validate my precept too.  Home Depot sells cheap low end brand products [which BTW you prefer].  L/m store owner/operator sells high-end brand products.  Even you HS should get this since you posted it.  Unless of course you were soused yesterday when you posted.

My precept in business: You proved it: Indies are the backbone of the vacuum industry.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #116   Sep 8, 2009 9:29 am
CarmineD wrote:
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

Now, doesn't your story with the lawnmower store owner/operator validate my precept too.  Home Depot sells cheap low end brand products [which BTW you prefer].  L/m store owner/operator sells high-end brand products.  Even you HS should get this since you posted it.  Unless of course you were soused yesterday when you posted.

My precept in business: You proved it: Indies are the backbone of the vacuum industry.

Carmine D.


No it doesn't support you.  The indie is perceived to sell higher end due to price.  I have used both and the higher priced model left the lawn looking terrible compared to the lower priced unit.

I could buy two of the lower priced mowers for the same or less thatn the higher priced one.  The higher priced will not last twice as long and has inferior performance.

You are breaking their backs with your whimsical purchases.

dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #117   Sep 8, 2009 11:31 am
CarmineD wrote:
And HS I recommend others do the same.  If you're looking for cheap, buy from the big box stores.  If you're looking for value for your dollar, go with the indies.  Always.

I'm glad everyone doesn't take your point of view Carmine.  $50 - $150 vacuums are a good part of our business.  Parents bring their kids in that are just moving out, university students, seniors looking for an inexpensive second vac for around the house.  We rely on all of them now and in the future.  Our prices are no different from the box stores and we offer free assembly and we handle the warranty.  Perhaps it's time to rethink where you're making your purchases.

Dusty
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Vacuum Museum
Reply #118   Sep 8, 2009 11:38 am
dusty wrote:
According to the VDTA there are over 18000 vacuum and sewing centers in North America.

Dusty

Thank you Dusty.

Can you break it down further?  1)  How many Canadian vacuum independents are there?  2) How many American vacuum independents are there?


DIB
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