Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

There is talk of a boycott of British goods over the questionable release of the Lockerbie bomber Megrahi.   Since Dysons are at least designed in Britain, I wonder if it will have any effect on them.   Dyson might want to increase the size of the "made in Malaysia" stickers on their vacuums.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2603158/Americans-call-for-boycott-over-Lockerbie-bomber-Megrahi.html

Personally, I don't believe in punishing an entire nation for the stupidity of their government officials.  We've certainly had our share of stupid politicians in the US. 

*** Note that I am not implying that Dyson should be boycotted.  I am only saying that a call to boycott British goods could have an effect on Dyson sales in the US.     **

CarmineD wrote:

Lighten up.  I was not attacking. 

If you think I am pushing a $500 vacuum you are not as intelligent as I thought.  For that much money it should push/pull itself.

How about stopped up bags.  Really, should one have to replace bags and belts on a $700 to over $1000 Oreck or Meile?  The dealer should make house calls to perform this service.

How about those $100,000 cars that require new oil and filters.  Or how about having to spend $40 for nitrogen in tires when air is free.  What is this world coming to.

BTW, the Dyson warranty at BB in 2002 was $19 and not $40 as you stated.  Get your facts first.

HS:

You failed to mention when the BB warranty kicks in and for how long.  Depends on whether you buy the $19/$40 ESP.  As I recall $40 was the max ESP available on a dyson after dyson's warranty expired.   

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I had a full 3 yr. replacement warranty.

HS:

Dyson pulled the same bull shine BWM did.  Telling customers no maintenance costs after purchase.  Same same.  You criticize BMW for this, give dyson a pass.  BMW: you say is brake your wallet.  Dyson you say: you get what you pay for.  Which is it?  You can't have it both ways.  I know: Where you stand depends on where you sit!

About the same number of women told me if they buy a BMW it doesn't ever need maintenance as told me that they bought dysons for the same reason.  BMW sales staff lie, dyson sales staff just didn't know any better.  They bought into the dyson hawking and hype: Doesn't clog, doesn't lose suction.  Lifetime filters and belts.   Dyson bull shine to justify outrageous prices for mediocre performance..

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Yes, but 2 of those years you paid extra for were covered by dyson.  Read the BB ESP.  I forgot......sorry.  You can't read and comprehend.  You bought one extra year from BB for $19.    Like I said:  BT Barnum said there's one born every 6 minutes.  Stand in line.  Get your sign.

Carmine D.

PS:  HS take note too that the BB ESP says a product replacement is provided, and I paraphrase, only if the vacuum can't be repaired.  BB reserves the right to provide a similar product in cost and not the same product.  In part because as in your case BB no longer sells DC07's.  And it doesn't have to be another dyson.  It could be any brand/model comparable.  Even a HOOVER Z, for example. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HS,

      I wasn't sorry for what I said but only the thread it was in.  Dyson  should be boycotted ,not because of the Scottish but the Malaysians that  are for the most part  Muslim and hate us. At least that is what is written. Why spend money there that may be used against us. The same goes for Bissell. I do not hate  Muslim but the radicals that want to kill democracy and destroy the Christian faith.

          If the Dyson was built in England it would provide jobs to their own countrymen. Dyson must  have problems in England or he would. Right?

                                                                                                  Procare

                                                                                                                                                                                                     

 

procare wrote:

Hello Procare:

The USA and world are on track to do just that [impose huge economic sanctions] with an Islamic country and leader [disfiguring the Muslim religion for their own self-interests] with Iran and President Ahmadinejad.  President Obama gave Iran a deadline to the end of September to engage with the USA in talks to curb/freeze Iran's nuclear ambitions.  If Ahmadinejad refuses, Obama will likely make international overtures to enforce big time economic sanctions against Iran and will prevail.  Several meetings [G5/G20] are in place for September and then the UN meeting at the end of the month.  The door will be open to Iran to walk through and/or suffer worldwide economic sanctions.  Libya quit its nuclear ambitions some years ago, thanks in huge part to Guadafi's son Seif, the heir apparent.  Let's see what Iran does this month.  No vacuums come out of Iran, but the collateral Muslim country damage, if Iran doesn't go along, where vacuums do come, are uncertain.

Carmine D.

It's always strange how we are prepared to overlook things that others do that may not be our idea of correct or perfect as long as we can get something we want out of the deal. However, when they cease to "put out" or properly flatter us, we suddenly consider them the lowest of low.

To me the real issue is that American business and consumers are still not saying no to buying cheap and selling high no matter what the cost. Consumers are still buying without standards save for wanting the best bang for their dollar -- wherever the product comes from. AND no one's looking to share the wealth. Just like the boss who won't give you a raise but is always free-handed when it comes to an advance on your pay or a loan, we are more interested in their indebtedness to us and their advancement.

If indeed wealth is built on the backs of the poor -- and probably maintained by keeping the poor as poor as possible -- then if indeed Malaysians and Asians in general dislike us, I think they've every right to. The rest of the world isn't stupid you know. The folks who get paid dribs and drabs for making product later sold for hundreds, even thousands of American dollars are probably well aware of it and have every right to be resentful.

That said, we have long invested in tantalizing nations with opportunities to lay hands on American dollars and then found ourselves walking around later with dropped jaws when we learn that there really are some things money just won't buy.

Despite all the propagandizing I've been inundated by over the years, the one thing I fortunately had opportunity is that when you cross a border two things exist -- government and the people living under its domain. Nonetheless, the two may well not necessarily be aligned.

What I have learned is that no matter whether you're in New York or Moscow, Munich or Beograd, Istanbul or Tehran, ever-day citizens basically want the same things. Work that provides not great wealth but alleviates fear of lack in regard to the health and welfare of their families. Government lends to a secure sense that they may work, live by their own faith, impart their sense of right to their children and have peace.

We've long made a big thing out of shows of charity -- the delivery of aid and armies all over the world. Sadly, I have yet to hear much about our public insisting on pay hikes for those who daily spend many hours but receive little in profit for making of goods we easily spend big money on and we have no such intentions in mind.

Yet, it's always "them" that are found at fault. There are and have been no long discussions here as to our own culpability. No one makes much remark as to how we love technology so much that we won't insist on not buying American-made TVs, appliances and electronics or holding out until at least a significant part of the market here is composed of American-made goods.

Americans just like Malays and others seemingly not synched-up with our so-called Christian way of life are equally ready to believe that the source of our troubles always stems from somewhere else. We accept its direction from wherever the finger of government is pointing.

Venson