Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Anybody have any ideas about what actually should constitute the basics of a good "green" vacuum cleaner?

I was checking out the Eureka Envirovac's ad claims and specs -- plus some not so favorable customer reviews today. They got me thinking.

Eureka claims that it's Envirovac's 800-watt motor uses less power than the 1200-watt vacuums now quite common on the market. We've had a long run of vacuum cleaners that have served us well using well under 800 watts for many years. So what's the difference?

Is it possible that an efficient 1200-watt vacuum may help get my work finished faster and even out the power consumption question by way of shorter use time? Also keep in mind that the whole issue of a vacuum cleaner's power consumption is highly debatable. Over a year, power used for vacuuming no where near matches the amount of draw by refrigerators, electric ranges and high heat producing appliances within the same span of time.

Better bagged and bagless vacuums do use final filtering medium that may prove a noticeable hit on the wallet if not our ecology. Dumping a dirt bin or water-pan in some ways may lend to saving on what you'd pay for bags although the variable there may hang upon size and price. We use far more paper and plastic by way of other household disposables like diapers and personal paper goods.

The few matters mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg when considering the total question. Maybe an ecologically beneficial vacuum cleaner, or any other appliance for that matter, can be more "green" by way of potential longevity and easy repairability. Biodegradable, recyclable, whatever -- brands and models we've seen endure and provide useful service over long periods of time may be the greenest cleaning machines we'll know by reason of less need for replacement. How do we keep that in the mix while moving ahead?

Venson

Oh boy.  Idle hands...

Between [so-called] Severus’ Boycott Dyson theory, Carmine’s and Retardturtle’s Dyson’s conspiracy theories, I’d say you guys could use some much needed down time.

Hey, I hear the next Star Trek convention is just around the corner.  Pace yourselves and stay focused on what really matters....  the prize... the convention, and being with others who are like-minded.  Phasers off.


DIB

DIB:

The truth is there are a host of factory refurbed dyson models advertised weekly for sale by all big box retailers.  Who do you suppose refurbs these to factory specs and how do you suppose they get them? 

Carmine D.

I know about the return refurbs.  I don't know about Dyson manipulating the UK Dyson market as you two layout in your theories.  Are you and Retardturtle breaking the news of this occurring?


DIB

So DIB if you know about the huge market among retailers in dyson refurbs where do suppose they come from?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Take all the time you need to answer.  You can get assistance with your answer too.  I'll even help you if need be.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hint:  They're not being recycled by dyson under the trade in your old dyson for a new one. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

And it's not the hush hush friends and family dyson discounts at 50 percent and more off MSRP [to boost lagging sales]!  Think you have the answer now?  We're waiting............

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

I wish to talk of Dyson controlling / manipulating the [junk] Dyson vacuum market per yours and RetardT theories.  So, how is it done and where is the proof?  Phasers off.


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB

    Well.....no proof and more of a hunch....or my theories on it anyway.   Why seperate them from the rest ? ...gotta be a reason....what better way to control whose hands or shelves they end up on...then to buy them up and control that small end of things.....thats what i would do. And how its done.....seperate / pick-up /pay-up......take to place  where the scrap rebuilding and salvage takes place....then on to the refurb market.   when money is involved ...anythings poss......dont see where dyson or anyone else is above this.....its actually a smart idea/move...seems like it anyway.

turtle1

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello 'turtle1'

You know how business works.  Your reasons are as good if not better than the ones that DIB proposes for his righteous dyson.  DIB avoids the truth and the facts.  The facts, as you know them in the vacuum business, allow the 'refurb' market to be manipulated [to use DIB's trekie terminology] and controlled by the brand maker, at least in the USA.  You also know that that there are laws governing the makers which regulate labelling, selling, and recording of all "refurbs."  In direct competition with the refurbs are dysons that are sold as 'used', 'reconditioned,' 'rebuilt' and 'demoes/displays.'  If these are in the hands of dyson franchised dealers, their sales are probably monitored and manipulated by dyson, at the risk of the dealer who doesn't obey.  If they are indies, with no ties to dyson, it's a sales war with no holds barred between dyson and them on prices and sales in the after market.  We all know how much DIB admires the indies!  I wonder the reason.

See DIB, I told you I'd assist if need be.

Carmine D.