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Location: Scotland UK
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Miele
Original Message   Aug 9, 2009 9:40 pm
Just wondering if anyone knows if Miele are stopping their S7 production? I've heard an industry rumour that they are to stop making the S7.
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Miele
Reply #19   Aug 23, 2009 8:17 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello vacmanuk:

Since these markets [UK, USA, and Canada markets] already have been selling dyson uprights with some degree of success, MIELE wants to compete in them head on with dyson.  Consumers are then given an act of choice:  $600 for a Malaysian built/made upright vacuum versus $600 plus for a German made one?  Dah! 

At some point, probably soon, the new MIELE S7 uprights will be in Germany.   However, I would tend to disagree with your statement.  I'd say that canisters [cylinders] are still the preference among German vacuum buyers over full size uprights.

Carmine D. 


I would not buy any item simply because it was manufactured in Germany.  Japanese cars and electronics are better.  Vacuums likely are just as good from other countries.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Miele
Reply #20   Aug 23, 2009 8:28 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I would not buy any item simply because it was manufactured in Germany.  Japanese cars and electronics are better.  Vacuums likely are just as good from other countries.



HS:


I'm not surprised you'd say this.  It's sounds good but is wrong.  The MIELE name brand is not only German made but also has a pristine reputation for quality vacuums in the industry for over 80 years which many say is without equal.  Measured against a relatively novice company like dyson with 5,174 prototypes and a few good products with growing pains [can't find it's right niche yet] and savvy high end vacuum consumers are presented with an easy choice of upright vacuum brands for buying.      

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Miele
Reply #21   Aug 26, 2009 1:21 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I would not buy any item simply because it was manufactured in Germany.  Japanese cars and electronics are better.  Vacuums likely are just as good from other countries.


Please excuse a non-vacuum post, but did I just read that your fave brand auto maker maker, Japanese, just recalled over 700,000 new and late model vehicles for a window problem?  This on top of another recall just a few months ago.   Better?  Oh, really?   Says you?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Miele
Reply #22   Aug 26, 2009 6:26 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Please excuse a non-vacuum post, but did I just read that your fave brand auto maker maker, Japanese, just recalled over 700,000 new and late model vehicles for a window problem?  This on top of another recall just a few months ago.   Better?  Oh, really?   Says you?

Carmine D.



They recall and fix at their expense.  Try to get that fro a European car.

European cars should be free.  They have so much profit in parts and labor at their shops.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Miele
Reply #23   Aug 26, 2009 6:33 pm
HS:

That's an excuse for poor quality control procedures.  But I'll remember that when you bring up HOOVER recalling over 30,000 WT's at N/C to customers for 36 reports of failed switches [an outsourced China made item].  And being fined $750,000 by the CPSC so it could balance its end of year budget deficit.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Miele
Reply #24   Aug 27, 2009 9:19 pm
HS:

Seems your fave Japanese car maker just announced another 100,000 vehicle recall on 2009/2010 vehicles.  Brake failures.  That's 3 recalls in as many months.  Better you say?  You're joking right!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Miele
Reply #25   Aug 27, 2009 9:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

That's an excuse for poor quality control procedures.  But I'll remember that when you bring up HOOVER recalling over 30,000 WT's at N/C to customers for 36 reports of failed switches [an outsourced China made item].  And being fined $750,000 by the CPSC so it could balance its end of year budget deficit.

Carmine D.



Hoover may have escaped the fine if they had taken the initative to report the defect without intervention.

Your excuse for the fine is no less than I would expect.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Miele
Reply #26   Aug 27, 2009 10:16 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Seems your fave Japanese car maker just announced another 100,000 vehicle recall on 2009/2010 vehicles.  Brake failures.  That's 3 recalls in as many months.  Better you say?  You're joking right!

Carmine D.

At least 50% better and the Toyotas also cost about 75% less. 

BMW Recalls 200,000 Vehicles for Airbag Failures

VW has about 60,000 on recall. Most every model in their line up

And then there is the ever persistant electrical problem that is so inherent with Mercedes. 

There are many more problems with European cars that do not reach recall status.  The are just a pain in the ash.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Miele
Reply #27   Aug 28, 2009 7:00 am
So in other words your fave Japanese brand is no better than the Europeans?  Now you talking.  SOme of the experts are saying the latest rounds of recalls for your fave brand bodes badly for your fave brand.

As you may/may not recall, I posted here a few years ago that your fave brand cut the design to dealer time from 5 years to 2.  Unheard of.  It thought computer technology and graphics could be used.  I said it would backfire.  It has.

As you know I own American vehicles, Ford in particular.  Don't care for the overpriced German/Japanese.  I've owned Fords for years.  I knew Henry.  He recommended the nitrogen years ago.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Miele
Reply #28   Aug 28, 2009 8:26 am
CarmineD wrote:
So in other words your fave Japanese brand is no better than the Europeans?  Now you talking.  SOme of the experts are saying the latest rounds of recalls for your fave brand bodes badly for your fave brand.

As you may/may not recall, I posted here a few years ago that your fave brand cut the design to dealer time from 5 years to 2.  Unheard of.  It thought computer technology and graphics could be used.  I said it would backfire.  It has.

As you know I own American vehicles, Ford in particular.  Don't care for the overpriced German/Japanese.  I've owned Fords for years.  I knew Henry.  He recommended the nitrogen years ago.

Carmine D.


I see your years as a pro at twisting the facts to make a sale still linger.  I never said that the Toyota is no better than a European car.  They all have recalls, including your Ford.  I believe that you drive an Explorer which has had numerous roll overs resulting in deaths.  Did Henry also recommend the Pinto to you?  Remember them?

No, I do not recall your prediction about shortened design times.  I hardly see what that has to do with a brake that MIGHT not be as efficient in freezing and icy conditions. 

I can't think of a brand that hasn't had a recall.  In fact Rolls had some serious problems with fires.

I do recall a while back when claimed how problem free BMW's were.  I also recall correcting you with proof that you were wrong.

I thought that you knew I also drive a Ford.  Still that does not make it better than Toyota.

 

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