Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

Hello HS:

There's a sign for you too.

Using my wisdom, I would buy and use the DD handcleaner pictured here despite the consumer product ratings.  Why?  Because I don't hold these in as high esteem/regard as my own personal and professional experience and knowledge of these particular products.  First hand knowlege and experience with the product always trumps unknown consumer reviews.

I recall a poster here, Vacuumfreeeke, who spoke unkindly of Dirt Devil products for many years.  Why?  I surmise that like others he was taken in by the usual negativity regarding the particular name brand and products.  By chance, he had an opportunity to secure a 'used' Dirt Devil Broom vac from quiet a number of years ago.  These are no longer made and sold.  It turned his thinking around about DD at least for this product.  And perhaps it opened his mind to being more open about others too.

The same phenomenon works in reverse.  People like you and your twin DIB as well as dyson shills blast public Forums with how great dyson and Sir James are [worth every penny is the usual giveaway on the reviews as MOLE pointed out here].  You speak glowing lines/lies such as "you get what you pay for' to justify dyson's outrageous prices for its product mediocrity.  Some consumers, not knowing different/better, fall prey to the drivel.  They are not deserving of the same sign as you.  They are just more trusting and judge others as being honest like themselves and without ulterior motives.  Soon they learn the truth and the dysons are returned/traded/junked.  DC16 is a classic example. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I'm just exposing the many not-so-bright *independent vacuum dealer con's [rock-throwing @ DC16, DC30/31] arguments.  Sorry, if you don’t appreciate light shown on this issue.  Blame yourselves.

DIB

*There are certainly good men/women in the business too.

You want some insight on yourself D,I,B,

You and Sir Jimmy have an overestimated opinion of yourselves,At this point in time I have grown to believe you are not a vacuum cleaner  repairman, a vacuum historian, an industry professional, area distributor,or even
 interested in this business . You got hired as a corporate cling on by dyson luckily you now can pay off your student loan [it was a waste of time and funds anyway,[your not really good at it ]

When you give us your background in this business then just maybe i'll respond to you . Until you do you dont deserve an answer to any of your questions,Cant Dyson bury you somewhere where you cant hurt  the company anymore.Maybe in R@D desining a high performance cyclonic can opener??????????????

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hiya MOLE:

You took the words right out of my mouth.  Save one exception.   I was thinking more in terms of a cyclonic nose cleaner for persons like DIB.  His is so far up the part of Sir James anatomy where the sun never shines that it might as well be dyson made.  I'll even write the product review for DIB:  Worth every cent!

Carmine D.

Carmine , Mole , DIB,

     The discussion has got my wife laughing and gave this evaluation after we saw a DC-16 at Sears and tried it. For her it was bulky, not enough cleaning time and wasn't as powerful as the Dirt Devil handvac of her Dad's.  She also didn't like the Dyson machines due to weight , cheap looking plastic, and the attachments.

     I do sell vacuum cleaners of a different brand and do repair.  My wife's opinions are her own and she has whatever cleaner she wants. Right now it is not Dyson and she gave it a fair look as I did but I held my opinion as I do now.

                                                                                                                                                                             Procare

CarmineD wrote:

If a humming bird had your wisdom he would attempt to get nectar from a horses rear.  I do agree that experience is better than another's review. Especially a review from a biased person such as the one on Oreck on this forum.  My DC07 whooped an XL21 and cost 1/2 as much. 

Now, can you find where I said I would buy a Dyson hand held ?  I have no experience with them and likely never will with any brand costing more than $50. 

I did get a big laugh this AM  when you defended your error of using a store rating for a product rating.

mole wrote:
Mole,

I seem to of upset you.  What exactly do you not like about my exposing the con men and the con’s they pull-off on the unsuspecting?  If you do not like me opposing and unraveling the con’s don’t talk Dyson.  I’ve pulled apart most of your anti-Dyson attacks and have destroyed many of your anti-Dyson riddles you've thrown out and thrown at me and rocks thrown at better inventions.  You sell high margin, tired, in the public domain, common throughout the industry technologies, Dyson sells their own technologies.  That’s your choice.

Mole, you backed away from me after I destroyed one of your anti-Dyson riddles some time ago.  And I’ve been waiting for another half-way intelligent riddle or statement attacking or smearing Dyson.  Outside of your name calling, you’ve not produced.  Although Carmine has a need to stand tall/tallest amongst his kind here and since no one can silence him, he’s been a great resource.  No one has hurt your industry "segment" more than him.

When the so-called (rock-throwing) experts began to compare the radical yet only battery operated DC30/31 to the [ancient] DD with its limitless household powered and bigger motored handheld I waited and watched.  After they volunteered enough information I used it against them and their techniques.  Is this a problem?


DIB

procare wrote:
Procare,

I hope your wife enjoys the ride (reading the posts).

I'm sure the DC16 feels heavy to many women and men.  Have you ever used one for any period of time?  The thing has radical suction and it refuses to clog with many, many months of use (if used properly - per the instructions).  For me, the weight is a non-issue.

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Evening DIB.....so whats the big hurry or rush about.  why does it matter how fast you can pop a tool on. ...leave the pistol grips to the drills/tools.

Reguardless of what you use...if its got a plug its gonna have the power to get it up....and you wont have to hurry cause your gonna run out of time.

Upright or small canister....just plug it up and clean it up , follow the mess....till its gone. and all while having triple the power at a min....in case you need to get deep in the carpet where the dirt or mess is..or the longer track...you got the power to do it with a small panasonic canister .. power the tiny dyson cant touch or come close to. better to have the power on hand and not need it than to not  have the extra when needed....the few extra steps required to get the job done doesnt  matter.....one hand two hands who cares...you got two of them....use them . wont kill ya.

The xtra steps saved [ cpl min ] are not worth the xtra money....in the the end the best will outpower/perform...and not have a time limit. ..same quality ,more power, at a far lower price....is smart shopping ..-you spent more but didnt get more -..more dollars in the bank. ...is forward progress. 

but i have a question for you...if i may.....do you service vacs in a shop/own... to where you actually work hands on with the units...inside and out.

not trying to be funny or a  smart-a....just curious. ..but reguardless of what you do..dont care if your the fry guy at mky-d......i respect you and your posts...your views -opinions

knowledge.....i was just curious...and in no way trying to compare what i know to what you know.....but we still got a seat saved on the dingy for ya..so whenever you  decide to jump ship...itll be there for ya.

turtle

DIB/HS:

I join the concensus here about you.  You need very serious psychological evaluation/help.  You believe your own dyson motivated drivel.  Even HS, your dyson twin [must be separate eggs], knows better than to buy a dyson handheld.  He will go only $50, tops.  Ironically the selling price of the Black & Decker pivot vac.  The dyson competition.  Which BTW rates 5 star ratings.

Carmine D.