Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

HARDSELL wrote:

Defend the consistently lower and lower sales for the later dyson models and the lower 5 star ratings.  Tell me based on the data: Are dyson sales and performance improving/regressing?  Your data.  Just as the indies and I here are saying.  DC07 was the best for dyson.  After that, its been all downhill.  In sales and performance.  70 ball models sold.  On the market for over 2 years.  Innovative?  In price and looks only.  This is the same model with the defective motor harness wiring that fails in a few months of purchase.  Wonder how many of those 49 raters giving 5 stars would still?

Carmine D. 

The more you post and attack, the more you prove me right about you and your dyson twin DIB being dyson pawns here.  Struggling to keep your fave brand afloat?  Did you notice that in your chart data, HOOVER TEMPO models sold more than all your dysons combined.  Do the math.  One HOOVER model sells more units than a half dozen dyson models and gets more 5 star ratings.  Fact!  You posted it.  Look at the low dyson sales and 5 stars for the ball model.  DIB boasts this as leading edge technology.  Yeah, right like the dyson ball barrow that no longer sells anywhere except on-lin by a German outfit that had to modify substantially to give it balance.  Sold to little ladies who do gardening!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I did not see any sales data numbers.  Only Review numbers.  I have no doubt that Tempo is a big seller.  Cheeeap, Cheeeeap always sells more than expensive.  More sales does not mean better cleaning performance.

Tempo performs better than all the high priced imports also by your ctireria.

Amazingly it rates better than those $200 to $800 Orecks that you taut.  Why do you continue to use your electric broom?  The Tempo should suffice.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Presumably more reviews is logically consistent with more sales, yes.  Wouldn't you agree?  I suspect you abridged the chart data, leaving out DC15 and DC24 sales and reviews. 

Now that your HOOVER versus dyson argument falls apart you want to introduce ORECK?  And call it an electric broom?  Proof of your attacking non-dyson brands?  Want more? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

How does it fall apart when Dyson has more perfect scores?  Common sense tells an intelligent person that the brand with fewer reviews can not have more stars.  Intelligence also shows Dyson getting a larger % of share.  Remember what you always say.  % of market is better than units sold.  % should apply in comparisons also if what you always say is true.

Read and weep:

REVIEWS	5 STARS	% AT 5 STARS
403	289	71.71%	DC15
77	38	49.35%	DC24
24	6	25.00%	HOOVER Z 700
8	1	12.50%	Z 400

Didn't you tell the world that "Z" and Fusion would whoop Dyson.  The chart tells the story.  Your favorite (Wind Tunnel) scores about 35 % in 5 stars.  Not very good for a vac that you taut as the standard to match in the industry.  Is it any wonder that no one copies the WT?

My point with Oreck was to show that the Tempo rates higher than your tauted Oreck.  Get over it.

No attack. Just fact.

My point HS is that HOOVER makes and sells an $80 upright TEMPO that consistently beats out all the $500 plus dyson models in sales, performance and satisfaction.    And TEMPO beats others too.  A testament ot its quality, performance and consumer appeal.

Carmine D.

And TEMPO is only 16 pounds.  The cutoff for a lightweight class in the vacuum industry.  Eat your hearts out dyson fans. 

Carmine D.

Hardsell,

   I did not take your remark of me as a joke, smiley or not. I fix vacuums for all customers no matter what they have. Dyson just hasn't got what it takes for me to back. Plastic that gets brittle and easy to break, dyson claims of never clogging or losing suction (under laboratory use not home use) , Suction of the late 80's , early 90's, heavy weight, high price for the cost of its components- DIB says wholesale for clutch unit $ 19 , try and get one  cost fom Dyson $50 plus labor putting it in at a Dyson facility total cost with tax could cost $124 +. As far as having a vandetta against Dyson ,Hoover, Kirby, Rainbow or any other vacuum I don't.

   I have been working on all cleaners for longer than you have been around . Bagless electric brooms came out in the 1950's. The people asked for and got bagged brooms. Today we are seeing a fad that is going on and as any fad will eventually die. It will take longer than in the fifties due to the population. It sounds good to use no bags but it does take filters and they are more expensive than bags and many don't last as long.

                                                                                             Procare

                                                                                                    

procare wrote:
HARDSELL wrote:

I doubt that you have been working on vac as long as I have been around.  I never questioned or attacked your integrity or ability.

I did ask 3 questions that Have not been answered. 

Did the words "on topic" ever mean anything... its reasons like the rants and b*tching in this thread that people don't read online forums. When I log on and see a thread updated I'm hoping to find info about the topic, not some petty disagreement. That is what email and instant messengers are for folks.

Back on topic, I picked up an Epic at an estate sale today and was kind of comparing notes to what was written early in the thread. This could be a nice machine if all holds true, but I reiterate my earlier statement in a different thread. The days of the luxury vacuum cleaner are coming to a close, me believes.