Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

       One thing I don't worry about is Dyson. There is nothing flattering about Dyson or the other bagless opponents to it. In my area you walk into Walmart and all you see are bagless vacuums and one cheap bagged vacuum. The people here are getting tired of bagless and are not getting another. I have more than a dozen that people brought in to work on and said no to repairing and said they wanted a bagged vacuum instead. I didn't steer them in that direction, they did. Not all of them bought from me because of price of product . Many could only buy the cheap due to unemployment in the area.

                                                                                                        Procare

procare wrote:

Bagless dominates in all big box stores.  Do you not think this is because most all brands jumped deep into bagless when Dyson was selling so good?  Hoover's first attempts at bagless were pathetic.  Their Fusion was a marginal improvement.  I gifted a Fusion to my sister for her new home 3 years ago and it is already in need of repair.    I used a DC07 for 3 years and never one hiccup.  Imitation is flattering but not necessarilly as good as the copied product.

Are you saying that a dozen Dysons came in or a mixed bag (no pun) of brands came in?  What did the dozen or so buy to replace their bagless?

If you consider the number of bagless sold by WM a dozen is a very small ratio of disliked vacs.  IMO there was as many bagged from WM that were dislikled prior to the bagles.  WM is not known for top quality and I find them to be no less expensive than the competition on like brands.  They get the crowds due to location, location, location.  Also they have excellent satisfaction policy.

Enough.  Thanks for your civil posts.

HARDSELL wrote:

Correct: "was."  As in a fad that soon fades.  Bagless have come and gone through the years in the vacuum industry.  Being wildly popular and then waning.  Your fave brand joined the ranks of the ones that came before.

Bagless is consumer cheap.  Ideal for sticks and hand helds and shop vacs.  Full size use and the dirt bin dumping is a nuisance.  You went from the DC07 bagless to a bagged royal.  Just as Procare and other indies see in their business. 

By trash talking bagged vacuums from the starting gate and still to elevate his own bagless brand, James thumbed his nose at a majority of the vacuum consumers and market.  All experts warn of the negative effects of bagless and bin dumping on peoples' health.  James would have to swallow alot of crow to enter the mainstream bagged market now.  Probably too late for him at this point.

Give credit to the bagged vacuum brands that coexisted with the bagless.  They had the eye on the prize.  James was too egotistic and haughty to coexist.  Like his zealous supporters he thought his overpriced overhawked and hyped bagless would run the competition out of business.  His thinking backfired.  They are prospering and he is drowning.

Carmine D.

When I spoke of these dozen bagless that people said not to fix is not saying some others didn't get theirs fixed but almost everyone said when they bought new they were going back to bagged.The  only one to benifit is the Independents that carry them. As I recall the average number of bagless sold in the U.S. was 30% and is declining.  A Dyson was put out in the trash by a lady down the street yesterday. A DC-25 Ball.

CarmineD wrote:

procare wrote:

I am sorry to hear that business is so bad that you are having to scrounge the roadside trash to survive. 

What was the ratio of Dyson vs others in the dozen bad vacs? 

Which is the moneymaking side of your business? 1. Vac sales or 2. service /repair and supplies?

procare wrote:

An appropriate place for it.  I've seen the same with dysons too in the trash.  And the cartons too with the dysons.  Oops there goes another recycled dyson.

I recall a certain dyson poster [no longer posting here] saying that the day he sees a dyson sold at yard sale and/or tossed in the garbage is the day he would die of a heart attack.  I told him I hope that his soul makes it to Heaven before the devil finds out he dead.

Carmine D.

HS:

Ask the former dyson buyers/owners who leave their dysons unclaimed in vacuum repair shops because they can't afford/don't want to spend the money to repair their overpriced dyson bagless vacuums, how they are enjoying flushing $500 down the toilet.  Oops there goes another refurb/recycled dyson.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

around here .....he woulda been gone a long time ago. ..pawn shops , yard sales , trash bin,......piled up behind service counter at wally.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello 'turtle1'

I'm sure he has died a thousand deaths.

Carmine D.