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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   May 14, 2009 5:50 pm
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CarmineD


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Reply #67   Jul 31, 2009 8:50 am
Hello Ace:

Thanks for the info.  9 reviews so far in almost 2 months most of these first time product reviewers.  Stars are an indicator to a point.  HAve to read the details.  Devil always there.  I just gleaned over the 9 reviews and will take a closer reading, of course especially the one from Woodbridge VA.  I have noted these negative comments on these reviews despite the 4/5 star ratings: Hard to push, heavy, pricey, hair and rug wrap on the brush, small dirt bin container.  Even with the 5 star ratings?  It's called the honeymoon period of the product purchase.  I'm sure more will come including a full blown review by Consumer Reports which already highlighted some of these negatives.  But so far off to good start.  $600 beans?  I'm sure some of these paid less with the discounts being offered. 

What was that about HSN exclusivity? 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Reply #68   Jul 31, 2009 7:24 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Ace:

Thanks for the info.  9 reviews so far in almost 2 months most of these first time product reviewers.  Stars are an indicator to a point.  HAve to read the details.  Devil always there.  I just gleaned over the 9 reviews and will take a closer reading, of course especially the one from Woodbridge VA.  I have noted these negative comments on these reviews despite the 4/5 star ratings: Hard to push, heavy, pricey, hair and rug wrap on the brush, small dirt bin container.  Even with the 5 star ratings?  It's called the honeymoon period of the product purchase.  I'm sure more will come including a full blown review by Consumer Reports which already highlighted some of these negatives.  But so far off to good start.  $600 beans?  I'm sure some of these paid less with the discounts being offered. 

What was that about HSN exclusivity? 

Carmine D.


You would be declaring Hoover or Oreck winners by a landslide with 9 positive reviews.

Back to Dyson.  9 positive out of 9 is still 100% positive. 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #69   Jul 31, 2009 7:36 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You would be declaring Hoover or Oreck winners by a landslide with 9 positive reviews.

Back to Dyson.  9 positive out of 9 is still 100% positive. 


HS:

9 reviews in 2 months does not a product reputation make regardless of the brand and particularly for a very new product.  If you look at the category ratings they are not all 5's but close.  The reviewers gave the product an overall 5 despite the lesser average if properly combined.  Hence, you can't go by the stars alone.  You have to read the details.   AT best, if the product is not a red herring as may be the case, it is a niche seller.

BTW, at least 3 of the same of these reviewers had comments about other dysons: DC07, and DC25.  DID YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID?  Devil is always in the details.  Like I said 2 months is not a long time to make a valid review.  Takes much longer to know for sure.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #70   Aug 1, 2009 7:35 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

9 reviews in 2 months does not a product reputation make regardless of the brand and particularly for a very new product.  If you look at the category ratings they are not all 5's but close.  The reviewers gave the product an overall 5 despite the lesser average if properly combined.  Hence, you can't go by the stars alone.  You have to read the details.   AT best, if the product is not a red herring as may be the case, it is a niche seller.

BTW, at least 3 of the same of these reviewers had comments about other dysons: DC07, and DC25.  DID YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID?  Devil is always in the details.  Like I said 2 months is not a long time to make a valid review.  Takes much longer to know for sure.

Carmine D.



Thanks for helping me understand the rating system, especially the ' devil in the details '.  I now know how Oreck gets its ratings.  Read the full reviews and it is about weight and not cleaning performance.  Then you just use a higher value for the star that rates weight over performance an viola you have a high rated Oreck.

Thanks again.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #71   Aug 1, 2009 7:37 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Thanks for helping me understand the rating system, especially the ' devil in the details '.  I now know how Oreck gets its ratings.  Read the full reviews and it is about weight and not cleaning performance.  Then you just use a higher value for the star that rates weight over performance an viola you have a high rated Oreck.

Thanks again.



Anytime.  Try one free.  People enjoy using them daily.  And the free canister comes with a better set of attachments than the $60 set with the DC31 handheld.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #72   Aug 1, 2009 8:45 am
CarmineD wrote:
Anytime.  Try one free.  People enjoy using them daily.  And the free canister comes with a better set of attachments than the $60 set with the DC31 handheld.

Carmine D.



Ah yes.  The old toilet shuffle.  Topic is the DC28 upright.  No real need for a seperate canister.  Great hose suction as compared to Oreck.  Oh sorry.  Oreck does not have a hose.  Is that because it does not create enough suction like Hoover, because it would clog or becauser it adds weight.  Probably the first 2.
CarmineD


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Reply #73   Aug 1, 2009 8:52 am
The only toilet shuffle is flushing $500 down one on a dyson.

Carmine D.

mole


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Reply #74   Aug 1, 2009 9:08 am
CarmineD wrote:
The only toilet shuffle is flushing $500 down one on a dyson.

Carmine D.


Doesnt DYSON  and a toilet use the same CYCLONIC principle. Now does anyone know why rainbow is known as the portable cesspool.

MOLE

CarmineD


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Reply #75   Aug 4, 2009 7:12 am
The more I think, the more I'm concerned that dyson has a $600 red herring on his hands.  Most here in the biz will know and say that the positioning of the cam on the brush roll of the DC28 is prone to trapping dirt and hair.  This dirt collection has always been problematic to brush roll ends and bearings.  We know that as a fact.  What makes dyson think it won't be for a cam that depends on cleanliness and freedom from dirt to operate properly.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Reply #76   Aug 4, 2009 7:13 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:  Im no engineer..nor an expert on this new power head  but wouldnt a floating head with a little weight added  produce the same effect / results as a powered one/broll  at a much needed lower cost.   im just not seeing where it is really a huge factor...or better than height adjst / weighted floating head.   ive read every post and im curious as to why dyson doesnt say he was wrong....about height adj. and redo the head to accomidate the lever /knob.... make the ajustments in smaller settings to better fine tune to the carpet...its way cheaper and no reliability issues.....saves everybody money across the board. not putting him or his idea down.....hes a gifted man...but some things are fine and better left alone.
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