Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

Hi MOLE:

Thanks for the skinny on the Guardian Ultra.  $1000 sounds like a decent price.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
I thank you as well MOLE. So this machine does have an automatic shut-off once the bag's full? Is it electronic or the mechanical kind (with diaphragm) like back in the day. Has ther been a drop as far as noise is concerned?

The 20-year warranty is indeed meritous but, pricewise, is $999.00 the price regardless of whether or not you have a "trade-in"? If so, the customers are doing better in your neck of the wood than here. The shop's proprieter quoted $1,699 and a possible $300 to $400 reduction with reduction with trade-in.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson,remember the company went franchises a long time ago,the dealers are just that now dealers,not held by corporate restaints,The machines are owned by the store owners not by the company anymore.Every dealer is fighting for that sale, its really a good thing the competiton now exposes the ROOKIES and the seasoned pros who know how to get around things.Yes the machine is electronic,the 7000 is manual.

This is not a hobby for us this is all we do [SALES AND SERVICE].Even the 999.00 price is not etched in stone.Got to do what you got to do.

I learned a long time ago ,A HALF OF LOAVE IS BETTER THAN NONE.

regards

MOLE

Hi MOLE,

My questions were posed for the sake of my own learning curve. The consumer has gotta do what he has to do too. However, if I don't trust anyone else's word, I certainly trust yours.

Venson

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

A religious man!  The multiplication of the loaves [Gospels of Mark and John] to feed 5000!  Have to trust your word!

Carmine D.

  Having not seen the new Guardian Ultra I can not say a lot yet. But to answer Vaclov on the design of the powerhead - there a constant change in the design of the power nozzle and it's components. The basic style may not change but things like the motor, brushroll, air slots for airflow are constantly changing for the carpets of the day. If you followed the history of the power nozzle , you would see the change as carpets in the home changed. The PN 1 was designed when Jute backed  Area rugs were the rage, Then PN 2 came out for the start of Wall to Wall carpeting, PN 4 came to work with the carpet as they started to have moisture barriers. The PN-5 was the first of the Omni Flow design power nozzles for all around cleaning. The PN-6 came out next to improve with the air slots , brushroll change, and motors. As the carpets change , suction changes, the power nozzle will change. How would you redesign the power head?  Deep cleaning is there. Change your brushroll every six to seven years or less if you use it a lot  because as a brush wears, your deep cleaning will go away. Brushrolls don't last forever.

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CarmineD wrote:

Hello vaclov and Venson:

Be nice.  DIB and HS will take umbarge at these remarks as attacks against dyson uprights for its puny brush bars. 

Procare is right on and is MOLE.  DC28 design could be problematic by sealing too tightly with rugs and stiffling suction power even resulting in overheating.  Note the Aerus write up about the Aerus power brush heads and tools. 

Carmine D.

Carmine contrary to your beliefs I consider all the comparisons to Dyson as FLATTERY.  No other vacuum has created so much jealousy by the other players.

Hello HS/DIB:

I'd say the quote function is acting up again!  Here's the proof.  And its not MOLE's post. 

I actually agree with you HS.  The other vacuum brands are not jealous they are livid.  Dyson is the cream of the crap in vacuums and sells for luxury prices! 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hello HS/DIB:

I'd say the quote function is acting up again!  Here's the proof.  And its not MOLE's post. 

I actually agree with you HS.  The other vacuum brands are not jealous they are livid.  Dyson is the cream of the crap in vacuums and sells for luxury prices! 

Carmine D.

The only reason they are livid is because Dyson put the hurt on most and busted Hoover.  I know one Dyson was crappy.  The one Dyson shoved up your sitter.

       One thing I don't worry about is Dyson. There is nothing flattering about Dyson or the other bagless opponents to it. In my area you walk into Walmart and all you see are bagless vacuums and one cheap bagged vacuum. The people here are getting tired of bagless and are not getting another. I have more than a dozen that people brought in to work on and said no to repairing and said they wanted a bagged vacuum instead. I didn't steer them in that direction, they did. Not all of them bought from me because of price of product . Many could only buy the cheap due to unemployment in the area.

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