Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

I went. I saw. And I said enough already!

My local Aerus/Electrolux dealer has closed up shop. So I took a three-mile trip to an Aerus dealership in Rego Park expecting to see something at journey's end and almost did. Keeping in mind that you can't tell a book by its cover, I hope there's a lot in the pages cover to cover.

This particular dealer has not yet put the one piece he has on hand out for display in his window but he does have new Ultra Lux Guardian posters hanging about the shop. Believe me, even if they'd set the real item in front of me -- the Earth would not have moved.

The new Ultra Lux Gaurdian is basically an old Electrolux Epic with a new top, slightly lower profile and slightly fattened up furniture guards AND is non-commital beige. Wheels set, hose fitting all still the same. The hose end appears to be the lesser version they always sold -- equipped with simply an on/off switch for the PN, a locking button and what I assume is another button for decreasing suction. As the combi-tool for above the floor and the crevice tool all clip onto a wand, there's no need for attachment storage of any kind atop the cleaner. PN is also the standard deal.

Apparently, the HEPA is lies horizontally and the bag size is the standard size Lux bag not the slightly larger type "R" the Renaissance and Guardian models use.

The cleaner's carry handle, nothing more than a handhold, is integrally worked into the new top piece on the cleaner. There is of course venting slots on top at the motor end. And . . . that's it.

Entering the store under the guise of a prospective customer of course -- wonder if I'll get an Oscar this year -- I popped the question, "How much?" The young man minding the shop got his boss on the phone and the answer to my query was, "$1,699.00. But that can be reduced if you have a trade-in. He asked what vacuum I owned (crazy guy) and I mentioned that I had a Kirby G5. For that he said could drop the price by $300 to $400. Just this moment my Mieles feel like a gift from God.

The only thing to impress is the 20-year warranty. The power spec is no big deal. I already own a 200-buck Black & Decker vac that has a 1200 watt motor and power aplenty though not a tool set I care for.

Quoting a friend of mine when she realized she'd met the man she was going to spend her life with -- "It's just all so damned inevitable."

Venson

Hello Venson:

You're shooting holes in my dreams!

Not really.  Thanks Venson for the review.  Sounds like the lux classic is still the best for the money!

Carmine D.

Hi Venson, Carmine,

The skinny on the guardian ULTRA, The origional renne thru 9000 serirs has been around since 1993 ,The machine really needed to go. The new ULTRA is the classic body with the hepa filter on the inside under the lid.The attahments are a little different as far as inside diameter,the motor is not carbonless its the same motor as the famous vortec  motor used in the high priced german machines,The warranty is 20 years on the motor and 5 on everything else, Following tradition its fully automatic, the only machine of its kind in the world.Customers really like it so far  they really like the feel of it, The machine really sells itself,We can say what we want about Aerus/elecreolux But the company has a VERY LOYAL CUSTOMER BASE,The machine is selling already for 999,00,

REGARDS

MOLE

 

Hi MOLE:

Thanks for the skinny on the Guardian Ultra.  $1000 sounds like a decent price.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
I thank you as well MOLE. So this machine does have an automatic shut-off once the bag's full? Is it electronic or the mechanical kind (with diaphragm) like back in the day. Has ther been a drop as far as noise is concerned?

The 20-year warranty is indeed meritous but, pricewise, is $999.00 the price regardless of whether or not you have a "trade-in"? If so, the customers are doing better in your neck of the wood than here. The shop's proprieter quoted $1,699 and a possible $300 to $400 reduction with reduction with trade-in.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson,remember the company went franchises a long time ago,the dealers are just that now dealers,not held by corporate restaints,The machines are owned by the store owners not by the company anymore.Every dealer is fighting for that sale, its really a good thing the competiton now exposes the ROOKIES and the seasoned pros who know how to get around things.Yes the machine is electronic,the 7000 is manual.

This is not a hobby for us this is all we do [SALES AND SERVICE].Even the 999.00 price is not etched in stone.Got to do what you got to do.

I learned a long time ago ,A HALF OF LOAVE IS BETTER THAN NONE.

regards

MOLE

Hi MOLE,

My questions were posed for the sake of my own learning curve. The consumer has gotta do what he has to do too. However, if I don't trust anyone else's word, I certainly trust yours.

Venson

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

A religious man!  The multiplication of the loaves [Gospels of Mark and John] to feed 5000!  Have to trust your word!

Carmine D.

  Having not seen the new Guardian Ultra I can not say a lot yet. But to answer Vaclov on the design of the powerhead - there a constant change in the design of the power nozzle and it's components. The basic style may not change but things like the motor, brushroll, air slots for airflow are constantly changing for the carpets of the day. If you followed the history of the power nozzle , you would see the change as carpets in the home changed. The PN 1 was designed when Jute backed  Area rugs were the rage, Then PN 2 came out for the start of Wall to Wall carpeting, PN 4 came to work with the carpet as they started to have moisture barriers. The PN-5 was the first of the Omni Flow design power nozzles for all around cleaning. The PN-6 came out next to improve with the air slots , brushroll change, and motors. As the carpets change , suction changes, the power nozzle will change. How would you redesign the power head?  Deep cleaning is there. Change your brushroll every six to seven years or less if you use it a lot  because as a brush wears, your deep cleaning will go away. Brushrolls don't last forever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Procare

CarmineD wrote:

Hello vaclov and Venson:

Be nice.  DIB and HS will take umbarge at these remarks as attacks against dyson uprights for its puny brush bars. 

Procare is right on and is MOLE.  DC28 design could be problematic by sealing too tightly with rugs and stiffling suction power even resulting in overheating.  Note the Aerus write up about the Aerus power brush heads and tools. 

Carmine D.

Carmine contrary to your beliefs I consider all the comparisons to Dyson as FLATTERY.  No other vacuum has created so much jealousy by the other players.