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DysonInventsBig
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View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Original Message Jul 17, 2009 7:56 pm |
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HARDSELL
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #39 Jul 29, 2009 8:14 am |
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I repeat. Dyson is following Hoover's path. How many failed switches did Hoover have to replace? Only after government intervention. Didn't Hoover's switch also cause some fires. You need to break the old habit of throwing stones in a glass house.
HS:
You and your dyson twin need to get some new material. Your sugar coated dyson bull shine smells rancid. You compliment dyson unjustly by saying its following HOOVER's path. More correctly dyson is following the halo path to bargain basement buy-out/extinction. JUst like the ballbarrow! Carmine D.
Are you saying that Dyson should be criticized and Hoover not for the same problem?
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #40 Jul 29, 2009 8:43 am |
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DIB: What do you say about indies who carry dyson to accomodate customer inquires but refuse to sell unless customers insist. These are the silent dyson dealers who carry the brand to do the warranty/repairs because, like dysons or not, dysons come into their stores for service and parts. Can't keep that from happening. Indies are the only source of dyson repairs unless you deal directly with dyson and pay shipping and handling for a 25 pound vacuum package to get mailed back and forth. THen hope dyson got it right. Carmine D. Carmine, The men you describe are bottom feeders. I’ll ask you... what would Dyson Corp would think if a bottom feeder came in and represented their intentions as... “[we want to] carry dyson to accommodate customer inquires but refuse to sell unless customers insist. [We] are the silent dyson dealers who carry the brand to do the warranty/repairs because, like Dyson’s or not, Dyson’s come into [our] stores for service and parts.” These bottom feeders misrepresent themselves to Dyson Corp when applying for a dealership. Of their character quality... Garbage in - garbage out. DIB
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #41 Jul 29, 2009 8:51 am |
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Carmine,
The men you describe are bottom feeders. I’ll ask you... what would Dyson Corp would think if a bottom feeder came in and represented their intentions as... “[we want to] carry dyson to accommodate customer inquires but refuse to sell unless customers insist. [We] are the silent dyson dealers who carry the brand to do the warranty/repairs because, like Dyson’s or not, Dyson’s come into [our] stores for service and parts.”
DIB
DIB:
I would say if dyson doesn't like the indies that you attack and malign here servicing and selling dyson parts as an authorized dealer, dyson can refuse/debar them from the dyson franchise. At least the indies are honest and up front on where they stand with dyson products and customers. The option if dyson refuses these indies franchises is not to have any authorized dyson vacuum stores to do the warranty/repair work. Dyson customers would have no choice but to have to send their dyson vacuums through the mail for mail costs and weeks of waiting at a time for service. Chose dyson's poison DIB. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #42 Jul 29, 2009 8:58 am |
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Are you saying that Dyson should be criticized and Hoover not for the same problem?
I'm criticizing you for complimenting dyson with disengenous comparisons to HOOVER. HOOVER has always had long productions periods and sales for its products. Your fave brand changes new models every year and discontinues each previous model when it does. Dyson can't compete with HOOVER in the big box store venues. Maybe in on-line sales only for dyson as a niche product. Not in the store sales. Your brand has a rep for not selling anymore. DC07, you know the model you were gifted as a refurb and sold off to buy a bagged Royal, is probably dyson's best seller ever in the USA. It's discontinued.
Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #43 Jul 29, 2009 9:36 am |
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I'm criticizing you for complimenting dyson with disengenous comparisons to HOOVER. HOOVER has always had long productions periods and sales for its products. Your fave brand changes new models every year and discontinues each previous model when it does. Dyson can't compete with HOOVER in the big box store venues. Maybe in on-line sales only for dyson as a niche product. Not in the store sales. Your brand has a rep for not selling anymore. DC07, you know the model you were gifted as a refurb and sold off to buy a bagged Royal, is probably dyson's best seller ever in the USA. It's discontinued. Carmine D.
I get it now. Discuss only the good traits of any vac that you like and do not tell the whole story about their bad traits. How many Hoover models were introduced with little or no change except the model #. So many that they had to sell. Remember all those new hoover models that would bankrupt Dyson?
Who had to sell? What a DA you are, the gifted DC07 was won on a bet from your fav vac. Of course you can't face the truth.
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HARDSELL
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #45 Jul 29, 2009 12:57 pm |
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You sold your DC07 while still under warranty and used the proceeds to buy a bagged Royal Emminence [and not a dyson] from your local vacuum indy. Tell the whole truth not just lies. Carmine D.
Have I ever denied selling the DC07 or buying the Royal? I also reported that I bought a Kirby. Where is the lie except in your dreams?
Yes, I bought the Royal from an indy. Otherwise I was basically limited to Hoover and Oreck. I do not personally care for either. I have used others since the DC07. Eureka Boss, DC14, Hoover Whisper. THe DC07 is still my favorite with the 14 a close 2nd. The Kirby and Royal are for sale. I am undecided on my next purchase. It will not likely be a Dyson. I have stated numerous times that I think Dyson is on a downhill ride like hoover.
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CarmineD
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #46 Jul 29, 2009 1:09 pm |
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Have I ever denied selling the DC07 or buying the Royal? I also reported that I bought a Kirby. Where is the lie except in your dreams? Yes, I bought the Royal from an indy. Otherwise I was basically limited to Hoover and Oreck. I do not personally care for either. I have used others since the DC07. Eureka Boss, DC14, Hoover Whisper. THe DC07 is still my favorite with the 14 a close 2nd. The Kirby and Royal are for sale. I am undecided on my next purchase. It will not likely be a Dyson. I have stated numerous times that I think Dyson is on a downhill ride like hoover.
Well HS, it's nice to hear that you are still capable of some semblance of truth even if you couch your fave brand's decline disengenuously with HOOVER. Recall your brand is still in its infancy. HOOVER is over 100 years old and still going strong with sales and service.
No tell us, please. If you, as a once satisfied dyson DC07 user, lost faith in James and his brand [and will likely not buy an existing dyson model] do you believe more dyson customers/dyson dealers are following your [and TOM's] path away from dyson? Especially with the higher prices and lesser performance! Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: View and/or Vote for the James Dyson Award [2009] entries...
Reply #47 Jul 29, 2009 2:21 pm |
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The decision not to carry a certain brand is freedom of choice....no matter what the reason. the owner of the shop can do that, thats why hes the owner.....it is what it is. if a dyson product isnt part of the owners grand plan ...thats life.., then dyson can open up lots of his own dyson only stores ..[like oreck].. and service only dysons.....create a dyson friends network.. [but you gotta own a dyson to join] a dyson world....to call his own. put one in every mall in america......that will solve all the problems with dishonest sales/dealers /service......no need to wait. bottom line....when you cast your vote....you vote for who you feel has you/your family best intrests in mind ..that will be of benefit to you/your family. ..and you can do that because its your right to choose. ..fredom of choice to not vote for the other man/woman ....dyson was/has been voted out by the shop owners...get over it . I am sure that most who thought Obama had our family's best interest in mind are having second thoughts. True..i second that.
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