Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

So there is absolutely *NO* air leakage and escape ANYWHERE else around the machine except for the blower hole?

Hertz wrote:

To my recall, new Luxes can be used for blowing -- a great but no longer much appreciated feature.  Air leaks before the blower port would defeat the purpose.  The less delivery of suction or blowing power a vacuum supplies, the less desirable a machine it is.

If you've ever taken one apart, the metal models from the 1205 on had a cord real that's a module of sorts.  The cord and rewind mechanism are all inside a closed case.  This is almost teh same as with the Model G whose cord reel was also in a contained module with a pass-through for exhaust air and a port for hose attachment.  It fitted onto the cleaner with screws I think but there was a rubber gasket in place to stop air leakage all around  where it attached to the body of the canister.  Again -- no air leakage.

The Lux plastic body models all can serve as blowers in the same fashion and thus I'd think that yes, Luxes are basically "sealed systems."

Venson

That is fantastic. Thank you guys SO much for all your responses!!

Venson, Hertz, an Just

    On the two style of bodies that were metal and had built in Cordreels ,the Model G and 1205, SuperJ style, had either  an Aluminum tube (G)  a plastic tube from the cordwinde section to motor section. This was a bleed off to let the motor breath if the hose got clogged and give you enough time to shut off the cleaner without burning up the motor. Today since the Diamond Jubilee there is a thermostat on the motors to protect them .

  If you ever put your hand over the tubes  I described  you would find the air is pulled in not blown out because the motor is sealed to the  bag compartment.

                                                                                    Procare

procare wrote:

Hi Procare,

I just popped the top piece off my 1205 and found the black plastic bleed tube attached to the cord winder.  I don't havee a G in the house, just a Model 60 and a Canadian Model 89 (my favorite).

Venson

procare wrote:

This is so very cool! See, that's JUST the thing about Retro Lux's - or even newer Lux's - is that they LOOK simplistic (sometimes even not), but they are VERY complexly designed to aid in superior performance of the machine. Very cool B)

Hertz wrote:

Besides savvy regarding attachment design, the real marvel was the automatic shut off.  It was an adjustable mechanical device composed of a diaphragm and tubing that reacted to the strength of airflow at the bag mouth.  As air flow lessened there, suction via a tube attached to the diaphragm increased until it created enough of a vacuum behind the diaphragm to cause it to pull a lever that opened the cover latch after which a spring loaded mechanism turned of the power supply. (I think I got that right.)

I believe there was an electronic set-up to achieve the same later on.  If it is still in play, I do not know.

Venson

Venson wrote:
The New guardian ultra, rennies, 8000's, 9000's and a  few other oddball models use a control board with a built in pressure switch.The 6500,7000,legacy use the the mechanical set up,

The tube running from the bag cage to the winder housing was eliminated when the  diamond J came out, this was the first machine with thermal overload sensor along with the HI-TECH 2100.Plastic body automatics do not pop open like the metal body unit.And the controls were moved to the top trim.

It was thought that the tube was to keep the cordwinder cool,

MOLE

This is all SO very cool, and makes me want an Aerus of a Miele B) It's either Aerus, Miele, Sebo, or Dyson for me, or maybe Dyson and any of the first three B) Probably a Dyson and an Aerus B)

Also, what's the performance like on the latest Aerus's? They evidently have "439" air watts, which is more than some central vacuums!!! 0_o. Are these really as powerful as thought?