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M00seUK


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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #226   Aug 12, 2009 8:39 pm
BTW DIB,  I always bet for money.  

Did you buy a DC30 and/or DC31 yet?  Or as usual did you forget that the crux of this thread is about you declaring a dyson handheld as a superior product over all the competition when all others here say otherwise, including those who own and use them.  All the while not owning/using one yourself.   Sounds like hypocritical praise:  Do as I say, not as I do!

Carmine D.

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mole


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #227   Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
BTW DIB,  I always bet for money.  BTW did you buy a DC30 and/or DC31 yet?

Carmine D.


No he waiting for the returns to come back,then he can have a truckload for nothing.BUT,BUT,BUT, we use cyclones and i;m a nice guy really,really,i am.

Dyson in the USA=FAIL

regards

MOLE
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #228   Aug 13, 2009 12:00 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Your lack of knowledge on how separators work is only eclipsed by your lack of integrity.  Want to make a bet? - That I can prove the Popular Mechanics test as a junk test?  If I win, you will not post on these boards for 1 year and if I lose, I will not return to these boards for 2 years.  I will only disprove the Popular Mechanics - Dyson DC16 outcome.  What do you say?  Is it a bet?


DIB

My understanding of the separators in vacuums is that most of the problems, i.e. dirt not being filtered out,  occur with dirt going into the cyclones at start up.  At start up you have turbulence and start up issues.  It's no big deal with an upright that is running continuously, but I do wonder how well it works for a hand vac that is cycling on and off a lot. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #229   Aug 13, 2009 4:17 am
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

Sounds like you are very desperate to get me to stop posting here.   I take that as a compliment.  A silly ridiculous bet DIB.  Just as I would expect from you.  I have nothing to gain by winning.  Why?  I could care less whether you post here or not.  Makes no never mind to me.  You, on the other hand, want to see me off here.  Why? 

Here in Vegas DIB I bet on everything: Horses, sports events, college. professional, political races, boxing, golf, NASCAR, poker, slots, blackjack, you name it.  One of the many reasons I retired here in Las Vegas.  I love to gamble.  I'm a risk taker.  That's why I was in business for myself all my life.  Who do you work for?

But unfortunately I won't ever and never bet with cheaters, welchers and fools [includes mentally challenged and incompetent and persons not of legal age to gamble ].  Where do you fit?

Anymore "soup" questions to answer?

Carmine D.


I made the offer (bet) to make the point...  that, even when presented with a gift (looking smart in front of your peers and simultaneously excommunicating the number one Dyson advocate and reveler in exposing the dealer cons) you will back down.  Science supersedes yours and others loose lips and conning lips.

How you spend your recreational time is not of interest to me.  My interest is in exposing the seedy side (segment) to your industry - via you (primarily).  Stay focused please.


DIB
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #230   Aug 13, 2009 4:52 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Your lack of knowledge on how separators work is only eclipsed by your lack of integrity.  Want to make a bet? - That I can prove the Popular Mechanics test as a junk test?  If I win, you will not post on these boards for 1 year and if I lose, I will not return to these boards for 2 years.  I will only disprove the Popular Mechanics - Dyson DC16 outcome.  What do you say?  Is it a bet?


DIB
Severus wrote:
My understanding of the separators in vacuums is that most of the problems, i.e. dirt not being filtered out,  occur with dirt going into the cyclones at start up.  At start up you have turbulence and start up issues.  It's no big deal with an upright that is running continuously, but I do wonder how well it works for a hand vac that is cycling on and off a lot. 

I have not seen any evidence of this.  Have you?

DIB

P.S.  I own 3 DC16's.
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #231   Aug 13, 2009 6:56 am
DIB:

I have the gift of smartness [its called IQ].  No need to look it.  The latter [looking smart] is for those like you with something to prove [confidence as in con] in the absence of the truth!

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #232   Aug 13, 2009 6:59 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

P.S.  I own 3 DC16's.


Probably a good number to own and use.  One DC 16 just can't do any clean up job in the short 5 minutes operation time.  Now the question for you to answer, honestly if you would, is how much did you pay for each one?  MSRP $150-$200.  Or like MOLE suggests here, are these dyson handhelds some of the huge number of DC16 returns that dyson sells [more like giveaway] as part of its family and friends program for pennies on the dollar?

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #233   Aug 13, 2009 7:00 am
mole wrote:
No he waiting for the returns to come back,then he can have a truckload for nothing.BUT,BUT,BUT, we use cyclones and i;m a nice guy really,really,i am.

Dyson in the USA=FAIL

regards

MOLE



Hiya MOLE:

First he needs to remove his head from the part of James anatomy where the sun never shines.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #234   Aug 13, 2009 7:32 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I have not seen any evidence of this.  Have you?

DIB

P.S.  I own 3 DC16's.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Your lack of knowledge on how separators work is only eclipsed by your lack of integrity.  Want to make a bet? - That I can prove the Popular Mechanics test as a junk test?  If I win, you will not post on these boards for 1 year and if I lose, I will not return to these boards for 2 years.  I will only disprove the Popular Mechanics - Dyson DC16 outcome.  What do you say?  Is it a bet?


DIB
Severus wrote:
My understanding of the separators in vacuums is that most of the problems, i.e. dirt not being filtered out,  occur with dirt going into the cyclones at start up.  At start up you have turbulence and start up issues.  It's no big deal with an upright that is running continuously, but I do wonder how well it works for a hand vac that is cycling on and off a lot. 


Hello Severus:

I agree.  Please allow me the liberty to answer DIB's question for you WRT cyclones clogging quicker in handhelds. 

DIB:  If you can take your head out from under James/dyson, the Youtube video that vacmanuk posted comparing a dyson DC16 to the Black & Decker pivotvac.  The fine flour test was done first.  Then followed by the larger pieces of wet kitty litter.  The user was manually helping the dyson pick up the litter with the oblong cleaning nozzle by using his hand to push it in.  So holding a DC16 in one hand and pushing the litter into the nozzle opening with the other.  Both hands occupied.  Then the user removes the nozzle and uses the larger dyson suction opening.  Still, dyson's DC16 stumbled and runs out of charge with the job just been completed.  Why, DIB?

Dah!  The cyclones were clogged by the fine flour just as Severus opines.  And dyson always warns in its literature.  When these clog, suction effectiveness diminishes.  I suspect if the wet kitty litter were done first, a DC16 would fare better but not for long.  A DC16 would choke on the next cleanup job.  Since the same methodology is used for the B&D pivot vac as the DC16, the test is valid.  Dyson chokes and B&D wins.  Any wonder why so many of these high and over priced excuses for a handheld vacuum are returned?

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #235   Aug 13, 2009 9:28 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

How you spend your recreational time is not of interest to me.  My interest is in exposing the seedy side (segment) to your industry - via you (primarily).  Stay focused please.


DIB


Back at you DIB.  I have no interest in betting cheaters, welchers and fools with silly offers.  I bet for cash.  Stay focused.  Why didn't the DC16 pick up the wet kity litter as quickly and easily as the B&D pivot vac which still had a full charge more than a DC16 after the job was complete? Let's see: $150-$200 versus $50?  Remember your sign and the good Pastor's words?  

Carmine D.

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