Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum Original Message Jun 4, 2009 1:02 pm
New lightweight with OBT in town for $250 with free bags for life and zero cost maintenance warranty for life. Anything goes wrong, a new vacuun is shipped to you.
http://www.garryvac.com/
Taking a page from ORECK on the giveaways: Free Steam Mop to keep if not satisfied with purchase and returned.
Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum Reply #37 Jun 23, 2009 7:20 am
Hi retardturtle1:
Let's see what the old memory recalls. The manager, female, said to expect more involvement in ORECK operations by Judy ORECK, including TV commercials. She likes Judy saying she is direct and honest. The master repairman seconded that motion. With the right set of circumstances I may have an opportunity to meet Judy at one of the Las Vegas stores.
The master repairman said both RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and ORECK's, due to fan first design, are equally at risk for fan breakage. None is more vulnerable than the other. As one/other sometimes maintains. He does get dyson uprights in for repair that are clogged in both dirt path and filters. He repairs them if customers are willing. I didn't press him on the clutches, but he said he doesn't repair. They advise customers to ship back to dyson for repair. Which he says makes the dyson owners irate, especially when they learn they pay the shipping and don't ahve a vacuum for a few weeks.
Both said the ORECK vacuum workmanship beats the latest HOOVER lightweight but is on par with TACONY's lightweights. Routine services on all the ORECK uprights, not covered under the extended warranty features, are $15, not including parts. Primary clientele at least in this store are women and the cleaning services who use ORECk vacuums in business.
ORECK's vacuums sell quicker than TACONY. Why is that important? Belt life is better new out of the box. [Tho as recently mentioned here the latest TACONY vacuums have kevlar belts. I didn't mention that factoid]. They're point is the longer for the sale of the new product the more degraded the belt. In some cases a new belt is needed on the TACONY vacuums new out of the box. The kevlar belts probably make this a moot issue and may be a result of the problem.
Hope that assists.
Carmine D.
This message was modified Jun 23, 2009 by CarmineD
Let's see what the old memory recalls. The manager, female, said to expect more involvement in ORECK operations by Judy ORECK, including TV commercials. She likes Judy saying she is direct and honest. The master repairman seconded that motion. With the right set of circumstances I may have an opportunity to meet Judy at one of the Las Vegas stores.
The master repairman said both RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and ORECK's, due to fan first design, are equally at risk for fan breakage. None is more vulnerable than the other. As one/other sometimes maintains. He does get dyson uprights in for repair that are clogged in both dirt path and filters. He repairs them if customers are willing. I didn't press him on the clutches, but he said he doesn't repair. They advise customers to ship back to dyson for repair. Which he says makes the dyson owners irate, especially when they learn they pay the shipping and don't ahve a vacuum for a few weeks.
Both said the ORECK vacuum workmanship beats the latest HOOVER lightweight but is on par with TACONY's lightweights. Routine services on all the ORECK uprights, not covered under the extended warranty features, are $15, not including parts. Primary clientele at least in this store are women and the cleaning services who use ORECk vacuums in business.
ORECK's vacuums sell quicker than TACONY. Why is that important? Belt life is better new out of the box. [Tho as recently mentioned here the latest TACONY vacuums have kevlar belts. I didn't mention that factoid]. They're point is the longer for the sale of the new product the more degraded the belt. In some cases a new belt is needed on the TACONY vacuums new out of the box. The kevlar belts probably make this a moot issue and may be a result of the problem.
Hope that assists.
Carmine D.
HI CARMINE.
Thank you for sharing that...i found it very helpful....and i do believe ive seen judy a couple of times on tv...but i saw her brother not too long ago on a im really rich show..showing his house , plane...ect....really nice. hope you get to meet her...but you would think tacony would use or make a metal fan...i would..alot of the cleaning services that have us maintain their kirbys switched over to metal...and no more breakage. so true about the belts, the orig oreck belts are by far the best over essco replacements, tacony ..and i knew oreck was on par in quality with tacony...no doubt. but like the tacony more because of the price and the better performance and deeper cleaning,.sleeker look. then a can for the rest. hoover by far has nothing on either of the above...its just one bad ass looking vac with a beast of a motor for super deep cleaning....just all the downfalls that the above dont have..but id buy the either them without a motor...and put one of my many in there,....but in the end oreck is the proven winner overall just cause the vac does what its suppost to do....and do it reliably.....
ps.how does the oreck plat rate against the takony...perf. wise.
Peformance wise retardturtle1, I'd say TACONY uprights are a tad better than ORECK's.
I see alot of employees defecting from TACONY and going over to ORECK. Not the other way around. That might be a coincidence particular to my personal experience and not widespread.
Peformance wise retardturtle1, I'd say TACONY uprights are a tad better than ORECK's.
I see alot of employees defecting from TACONY and going over to ORECK. Not the other way around. That might be a coincidence particular to my personal experience and not widespread.
Carmine D.
hi carmine
odd thind i noticed tho carmine, i had to replace a mtr on a riccar sl and the wrty repl they sent was a lamb motor. but in orecks you see an oreck motor....im thinking that on the movement issue , oreck could be better to work for ..stronger family oriented comp. ..security.
odd thind i noticed tho carmine, i had to replace a mtr on a riccar sl and the wrty repl they sent was a lamb motor. but in orecks you see an oreck motor....im thinking that on the movement issue , oreck could be better to work for ..stronger family oriented comp. ..security.
Hi retardturtle1:
Lamb motors have been a staple fo the vacuum industry going back to the 50's. ORECK has a magic name. The original lightweight upright. A classic. Icon for the industry. The face of that product is Dave Oreck, the most recognizable person in the vacuum industry in the USA.
On the same note, most ORECK stores have a life size photo of Dave hanging on the wall and pitching the ORECK upright. Pride in your product, name, and reputation in the business.
I have an Oreck XL21 that I bought a few years back and I have to say that it was the warranty and service plan that sold me on it. After reading on this Garry vac, it does look cheap. if you read the details on the bags...they bill you $9.99 every 4 months. That's $30 a year. I can get the a year supply of Oreck paper bags like they show for $20 or the new ones with charcoal (which I buy) for $35. I cant see spending shipping and handling every time something happens to my vac. I have a local Oreck that I frequent, because im friends with the manager and I like to keep my home extremely clean. I own most of the Oreck products they offer. It is so much easier to go in and have my vac repaired for free when something goes wrong and I've never been without my vac for more than 3 days. I don't think this will hurt Oreck's business because the consumer that buys an Oreck/Dyson/Kirby will generally shop high end vacuums and knows that when you buy $50 to $199 vacs you get what you pay for and if they read the site for what is actually charged, they will see the scam they are running for continual charges.
I was in Oreck just last week and purchased that portable steamer when I picked up my vac from being serviced. I honestly wanted to see how it compared to the shark. I like it for disinfecting my wood floors and tile, but I cant say that I would use it for much more than that. Its suppose to be usable on windows and mirrors, but when it full of water its really awkward to invert or even hold it straight..Its just easier to use glass cleaner and a microfiber towel. I havent used the smaller attachments yet, but would like to see how well the small brush works around my toilet..if there is room for it to fit.
Ive met Judy Oreck once. I think she owns some of the stores in the Baton Rouge area as well. She had come to the New Orleans area for a new product release or somthing when I was in the store. I think I was told that she was an Ex wife of Tom Oreck maybe..Dont remember much about it though..Sry im off topic...just trying to hit on alot of subjects in this thread....
Carmine..If you havent gotten your Steamer yet, Im sure I can make a call and get you one..Like I said..I have friends...lol
Thanks for the offer on the ORECK Steam It. It's been available on the ORECK Web SIte for weeks. But I'm holding out to make a deal with the Silver Series too at my local ORECK store. The longer I wait, the more uses I come up with for the ORECK Steam It. So maybe the delay is a good thing!
Ironically we turtle1 was just posting about the conspicuos absence of Garry vacuums and information and lo and behold it's here on the front page side banner.
Did anyone happen to look under their 'Terms and Conditions'? It states the following:
ARBITRATION AGREEMENT
THIS ARBITRATION AGREEMENT (“AGREEMENT”) AFFECTS YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES BY PROVIDING THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN YOU AND THE SELLER OF THIS PRODUCT (“COMPANY”), MUST BE RESOLVED THROUGH BINDING ARBITRATION, RATHER THAN IN A COURT.
PLEASE READ THIS AGREEMENT CAREFULLY. YOU ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT BY RETAINING THE PRODUCT(S) SHIPPED IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT (THE “PRODUCT”) FOR MORE THAN FOURTEEN (14) DAYS AFTER RECEIPT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, YOU MAY RETURN THE PRODUCT TO COMPANY WITHIN FOURTEEN (14) DAYS OF RECEIPT AT NO COST TO YOU.
1. RESOLUTION OF CLAIMS OR DISPUTES. Any claim or dispute between you and Company (or any of Company’s subsidiaries or affiliates) arising out of or relating in any way to the Product or this Agreement shall be resolved through final, binding arbitration. This arbitration obligation applies regardless of whether the claim or dispute involves a tort, fraud, misrepresentation, product liability, negligence, violation of a statute, or any other legal theory. Both you and Company specifically acknowledge and agree that you waive your right to bring a lawsuit based on such claims or disputes and to have such lawsuit resolved by a judge or jury.
2. LIMITATION OF LEGAL REMEDIES. All arbitrations under this Agreement shall be conducted on an individual (and not a class-wide) basis, and an arbitrator shall have no authority to award class-wide relief. You acknowledge and agree that this Agreement specifically prohibits you from commencing arbitration proceedings as a representative of others or joining in any arbitration proceedings brought by any other person.
3. ARBITRATION PROCEDURES. a. Before commencing any arbitration proceedings under this Agreement, you must first present the claim or dispute to Company by calling 818-217-2500 and asking for the Legal Department and allowing Company the opportunity to resolve the claim or dispute. If your claim or dispute is not resolved within sixty (60) days, you may commence arbitration proceedings in accordance with the terms of this Agreement. b. The arbitration of any claim or dispute under this Agreement shall be conducted pursuant to the American Arbitration Association’s (“AAA“) United States Commercial Dispute Resolution Procedures and Supplementary Procedures for Consumer-Related Disputes. These rules and procedures are available by calling the AAA or by visiting its web site at www.adr.org. c. The arbitration of any claim or dispute under this Agreement shall be conducted in the State of California or the location in which you received this Agreement. d. All administrative expenses of arbitration proceedings commenced under this Agreement shall be divided equally between you and Company, except that: (a) if the claim or dispute that is the subject of the arbitration proceedings is less than ten thousand dollars (US$10,000), you will be responsible for no more than one hundred twenty-five dollars (US$125) in administrative expenses; (b) if the claim or dispute that is the subject of the arbitration proceedings is more than ten thousand dollars (US$10,000) but less than seventy-five thousand dollars (US$75,000), you will be responsible for no more than three hundred seventy-five dollars (US$375) in administrative expenses; and (c) if the claim or dispute that is the subject of the arbitration proceedings is more than seventy-five thousand dollars (US$75,000), then you will be responsible for administrative expenses in accordance with the Commercial Fee Schedule provided by the AAA. You acknowledge and agree that each party shall pay the fees and costs of its own counsel, experts and witnesses.
4. CHOICE OF LAW. This Agreement shall be governed by the United States Federal Arbitration Act and the laws of the state of California.
5. SEVERABILITY. If any provision of this Agreement is declared or found to be unlawful, unenforceable or void, such provision will be ineffective only to the extent that it is found unlawful, unenforceable or void, and the remainder of the provision and all other provisions shall remain fully enforceable.
This sounds pretty ominous to me. I don't think I will be purchasing one any time soon. I too find it's strange that I can't find any customer reviews.
