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Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 986

Dyson DC11 is Back!
Original Message   Jun 13, 2009 9:43 am
Did anyone notice that the DC11 is back on some of the Dyson websites... Here's one that I thought was gone forever...
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #11   Jun 16, 2009 5:51 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

WRT dyson's original ball DC15, within one month of its launch in the USA, I was the first here to post that BEST BUY stores would reduce its MSRP by at least $50 by the end of the year.  You recall a DC15's All Floor original price was $599.  Many of the posters here with dyson rosy glasses laughed at my post.   Except Venson.  He agreed.  Well, I was wrong, dyson dropped the MSRP by $100 in September 2005, within 3 months of its launch. 

The BEST BUY store that is the largest seller of dyson vacuums on the east coast says the dyson DC15 is [was] its worse seller after dyson's DC11, which had the highest return rate of all its vacuums.  Consumer Reports consistently rated a dyson DC15 ball as the worse of all dyson uprights.  That is up until DC24 baby ball model, which now has the infamous ranking of the worse of all CR's dyson ratings.  As I recall, you boasted paying only $300 for your DC15 ball from BEST BUY, well under the MSRP.  The only way BB could sell them.

Carmine D.


You were also the first (and likely only) to post that several Hoovers would be the demise of Dyson.  I was the first to tell you that you were wrong.  I was right.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #12   Jun 16, 2009 6:08 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You were also the first (and likely only) to post that several Hoovers would be the demise of Dyson.  I was the first to tell you that you were wrong.  I was right.



Hi HS:

In case you missed it, I have ONE ally which I strategically predicted here in January 2009 would agree with me: Consumer Reports.  HOOVER received 7 of the top 20 upright winners per CR, including spots 1, 3, 5, 8, 15, 18 and 20.   Your favorite brand got 13 and 19.  That's a death/funeral knell.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #13   Jun 16, 2009 6:53 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi HS:

In case you missed it, I have ONE ally which I strategically predicted here in January 2009 would agree with me: Consumer Reports.  HOOVER received 7 of the top 20 upright winners per CR, including spots 1, 3, 5, 8, 15, 18 and 20.   Your favorite brand got 13 and 19.  That's a death/funeral knell.

Carmine D.

I hear the wind blowing again.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #14   Jun 16, 2009 7:05 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I hear the wind blowing again.


Must be the Holy Spirit coming to welcome home your favorite vacuum brand!  

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #15   Jun 17, 2009 8:01 am
Sorry guys I MUST concur here. Its simply not enough to rely on statistics, believing ALL the hype that consumer reports do = after all Im sure some of you have vacuums that have been slated in the past and yet they give you sterling service. Granted, some statistics are worth relying on but they don't create a whole picture. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'll give you an example; on here (and I can't remember whether it was a review or not) someone mentioned that the Sebo Felix gave poor carpet performance. Not in my home! If I go over the whole carpet with the Felix and then a bagless vacuum with no dirt in the bin, hardly any other dirt comes to the surface which the cyclonic system produces. This isn't a lab test but purely one that's done by me. <BR><BR>Similarly I got a surprise when I did the same testing with a claimed "best performance" Panasonic bagged upright and the bagless test- the cyclonic vac produced a lot more dirt after the Panasonic had gone over the same carpet.

Here's a good video with a Dyson in it!

http://fwd.five.tv/videos/jon-tests-vacuum-cleaners
This message was modified Jun 17, 2009 by vacmanuk
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #16   Jun 17, 2009 8:26 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Sorry guys I MUST concur here. Its simply not enough to rely on statistics, believing ALL the hype that consumer reports do = after all Im sure some of you have vacuums that have been slated in the past and yet they give you sterling service. Granted, some statistics are worth relying on but they don't create a whole picture. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'll give you an example; on here (and I can't remember whether it was a review or not) someone mentioned that the Sebo Felix gave poor carpet performance. Not in my home! If I go over the whole carpet with the Felix and then a bagless vacuum with no dirt in the bin, hardly any other dirt comes to the surface which the cyclonic system produces. This isn't a lab test but purely one that's done by me. <BR><BR>Similarly I got a surprise when I did the same testing with a claimed "best performance" Panasonic bagged upright and the bagless test- the cyclonic vac produced a lot more dirt after the Panasonic had gone over the same carpet.

Here's a good video with a Dyson in it!

http://fwd.five.tv/videos/jon-tests-vacuum-cleaners

I had your same experience.  I brought several vacuums home to demo before making the final purchase.  One was a highly rated Kenmore and one was an Oreck XL21 (there were others).  When I used the DC07 I was amazed at the dirt that all the others failed to remove.  I had been using them daily for a few weeks so they had the opportunity to clean the carpet before the Dyson arrived. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #17   Jun 17, 2009 9:00 am
HARDSELL wrote:
I had your same experience.  I brought several vacuums home to demo before making the final purchase.  One was a highly rated Kenmore and one was an Oreck XL21 (there were others).  When I used the DC07 I was amazed at the dirt that all the others failed to remove.  I had been using them daily for a few weeks so they had the opportunity to clean the carpet before the Dyson arrived. 



And pray tell what did you eventually do with your DC07 that you are so fond of bragging about here?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #18   Jun 17, 2009 9:04 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Sorry guys I MUST concur here. Its simply not enough to rely on statistics, believing ALL the hype that consumer reports do = after all Im sure some of you have vacuums that have been slated in the past and yet they give you sterling service. Granted, some statistics are worth relying on but they don't create a whole picture. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'll give you an example; on here (and I can't remember whether it was a review or not) someone mentioned that the Sebo Felix gave poor carpet performance. Not in my home! If I go over the whole carpet with the Felix and then a bagless vacuum with no dirt in the bin, hardly any other dirt comes to the surface which the cyclonic system produces. This isn't a lab test but purely one that's done by me. <BR><BR>Similarly I got a surprise when I did the same testing with a claimed "best performance" Panasonic bagged upright and the bagless test- the cyclonic vac produced a lot more dirt after the Panasonic had gone over the same carpet.

Here's a good video with a Dyson in it!

http://fwd.five.tv/videos/jon-tests-vacuum-cleaners


Hi vacmanuk:

If I recall correctly, SEBO's felix was not given a poor rating for rug performance by Consumer Reports.  But I'd have to verify and confirm with certainty. 

Carmine D.

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #19   Jun 17, 2009 9:14 am
I once put together a compact c5 with a electrolux p/n 5 and did my own demo on  a 9x12 carpet, using basic junk yard parts,adapted my filterqueen dust scope to the machine hose end, put in the black demo filters and it blew way every vacuum i own. So anyone want to opine about what caused this revelation was it the compact or the p/n 5.

I must say you guys are getting warmer.

Hey venson please set these guys strait..........

regards

MOLE

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #20   Jun 17, 2009 10:52 am
CarmineD wrote:
And pray tell what did you eventually do with your DC07 that you are so fond of bragging about here?

Carmine D.



Sold it.  Did not have to give it away like your brands.  Why do you use Oreck as opposed to Hoover that you bragged about so many years?
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