Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Did anyone notice that the DC11 is back on some of the Dyson websites... Here's one that I thought was gone forever...

I just checked the UK web site...It's there alright! I also noticed the DC15 has made a comeback as well. I would appreciate it if someone can elaborate why they older models are suddenly reappearing. Also, it looks like the DC22 Motorhead is making a comeback as well. It is listed on Best Buy as a "coming soon" item. I'm wondering if the DC22 being pulled off the Dyson US site coincides with the recent UK recall of it because of excessive hose wear/motorhead cable exposure issues?

iMacDaddy wrote:

Hello iMacDaddy:

As part of the yearly audits, dyson has an independent accounting/audit firm do an inventory of merchandise on hand beginning and ending the year in order to determine the Cost of Goods manufactured and sold.  I suspect, just a hunch, that the accounting/audit firm after seeing this same old DC11 and DC15 inventory on hand year after year suggests to dyson management that something be done with it.  First option always is to try to sell it off.  Then, depending on the sales, proceed with other options.  I recall right before dyson pulled the DC11 from the USA market. Oprah Winfrey had a truck load from BEST BUY that she gifted away.  Since BEST BUY and dyson formed the USA partnership to launch dyson in the USA in 2002, BEST BUY was probably stuck with a warehouse of new unwanted DC11 merchandise that it didn't want sitting in its inventory.  So, not selling, BB opted to gift away to ABC's Oprah Show. 

Carmine D.

The reason to why "older" models are back has nothing to do with speculating about Dyson reliability, but simply over supply. Catalogue brands in the UK tend to sell a mix of old and new Dyson models, and in this way Dyson have to mention that on their site by giving information about all the models that all stockists in the UK sell. This is why Miele's old S380 series is still on Miele's website even though most sellers/high street shops have stopped selling this model to make way for the smaller S4 or bigger bag S2 model.

vacmanuk wrote:

Hello vacmanuk:

Interesting.........gives new meaning to the category of "discontinued."   Not produced new anymore but still around for years due to over production/stock.

Carmine D.

For many years, you have been stating the DC11 has been discontinued...  yet and all the while this vacuum was selling and continues to sell in other countries.  Additionally, the DC11 type nozzle continues on and is the nozzle for some DC20 and DC23 vacuums.

The DC15 continues on too.


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:  I take the credit for being the first here to say that dyson's DC11 would be off the BEST BUY store shelves by October 2004 and I was right.  Subsequently, dyson pulled its DC11 from the USA market officially in Feb 2005 tho by that time they were essentially gone and forgotten.  I also said based on its 9 month production [launched in the USA in May 2004] in the USA, dyson's DC11 was the shortest selling vacuum ever produced and sold in the USA in 100 years of vacuum history [and still].  

A vacuum may be for sale in other markets and countries but still not sell.  The two [being for sale vice selling] are two quite different and distinct things.  If you have sales numbers to prove your statement that they are selling, please share them with us.  I would like to know what countries [other the UK] and customers are willing to buy a $500 straight suction cleaner with a air turbo tool in a global recession [other than a MIELE]. 

Carmine D.

Hello Carmine,

The DC11 is built on exclusive only to Dyson technology (at that time), multi-cyclonic’s.  Additionally many wanted and still want his Telescopic Wrap.  These 2 systems have contributed to his companies wealth.  The weakest link was the turbo brush...  a U.S. train wreck no doubt.  Your anti-Dyson contributions make it/could make it sound like new technology they’ve developed and launch was a failure.  There was no such failure.

I do not have these numbers you ask for.  Common sense says the vacuum was selling/continues to sell only because the vac has been for sale for many years in other countries.  If you did your homework you would know.  If it was a universal disaster as you imply, then why would it be for sale for years?  The DC11 was/is a money maker in other countries.

Of your Dyson shortest production run in the vacuums 100 year history...  pure comedy...  I love it!!!  Certainly, if Dyson felt he could do no wrong (believing all product will sell well), having this embarrassing and costly (turbo nozzle) failure was an expensive lesson for certain.  So...  you claim in 100 years of vacuum history ONLY Dyson has such a short production run...  there is no way you can back this up.  Although I’d like to see you try.

Somehow, someway you cannot except it is a Dyson or Dyson copy-cat vacuum industry (roughly 50%) now.  Have you seen the TTI VAX UK web site?  Their front page is plastered with Dyson innovations, Dyson illustrations and Dyson terminology, including the double tank Dyson DC11 styled cylinder and Dyson dual cyclone.  Like I’ve said...  Dyson carries the entire “innovating big things people want and want to buy” vacuum manufacturing industry.  Giants and much bigger companies like Samsung, TTI, Hoover UK, and on and on are lost without Dyson leading the way.

At the rate Samsung is patenting... they look to be launching Dyson copy-cat vacuums in a big way, including a in-function copy of the "a less expensive" DC18 (if they can get it to work).

http://www.vax.co.uk/

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

WRT dyson's original ball DC15, within one month of its launch in the USA, I was the first here to post that BEST BUY stores would reduce its MSRP by at least $50 by the end of the year.  You recall a DC15's All Floor original price was $599.  Many of the posters here with dyson rosy glasses laughed at my post.   Except Venson.  He agreed.  Well, I was wrong, dyson dropped the MSRP by $100 in September 2005, within 3 months of its launch. 

The BEST BUY store that is the largest seller of dyson vacuums on the east coast says the dyson DC15 is [was] its worse seller after dyson's DC11, which had the highest return rate of all its vacuums.  Consumer Reports consistently rated a dyson DC15 ball as the worse of all dyson uprights.  That is up until DC24 baby ball model, which now has the infamous ranking of the worse of all CR's dyson ratings.  As I recall, you boasted paying only $300 for your DC15 ball from BEST BUY, well under the MSRP.  The only way BB could sell them.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

The DC15’s Ball technology is genius and a huge money maker and is being copied (although not nearly as good) by some of the worlds biggest.  The DC15‘s weight, the heavy feel when turning, the intentional air-leak/suction killer in the nozzle - (designed to prevent a strong grip - so easier to turn), and the price point, look like they were not as excepted as hoped.  Although many love the DC15 and post their praises on HSN and many other review sites.

Dyson’s experimenting and turning these experiments into product have proven to be money makers.  Even the Model-T of vacuum manufacturers, that is...  Oreck, played around with a steerable upright, although only somewhat-steerable.

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

Dyson's inability to equip its very first canister model in the USA, a $500 DC11, with an adequate rug nozzle for US carpets is as you say  " a train wreck. "   Logically speaking, removing the rose colored dyson glasses, train wrecks, whether waiting to happen or after the fact, are best described as huge failures.  You're left with an out of the pocket expenditure of $500 and useless meaningless words.  I'd say the latter is the reason for a 9 month product life, the shortest in US vacuum history.

Carmine D.