Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

New lightweight with OBT in town for $250 with free bags for life and zero cost maintenance warranty for life.  Anything goes wrong, a new vacuun is shipped to you.  

http://www.garryvac.com/

Taking a page from ORECK on the giveaways:  Free Steam Mop to keep if not satisfied with purchase and returned.

https://www.garryvacuum.com/order_form.html?country=CA

Comments?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

     guess they got vacuums  to make..to keep up with demand.  [no excess inventory]  .no time to watch tv...but im glad to hear that some shops are doing good...i know alot that are not. great ...now perhaps ORECK will shed some light on GERRY...do a little research and shed some light.....great work.         

retardturtle1 wrote:

You're welcome. I enjoy the exchange of information with other professionals in the industry even if I'm officially retired.  The one ORECK staffer was a master repairman.  He had worked for Tacony for 17 years before his employment with ORECK.  Interesting to get his perspective on both brands simultaneously.  And then his perspective on the garry vacuum too.  He made the same observation I made here.  These lightweights uprights, ORECK, RICCAR/SIMPLICITY, HOOVER, have small motors.  It would be highly unusual for them to offer good tool suction. 

The other ORECK-er is a store manager for ORECK and very knowledgeable in her own right.  She initially gave me the run down on the ORECK halo in a very low key and mild manner.  No sales hype.

I suspect when I return, they will both have some more info on the garry vacuum to share.  Just a hunch.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

hi carmine

RETIRED.....YES.   but the knowledge and expierence that you have is priceless....and a gift. to those of us who want to know some of what you and the other members have to offer....and if this helps me do my job better or sell a little better [and it has] then this forum and its members i give credit to....and yes , the dyson lovers also.  i thank you ,,   but to move  on.  so mr. carmine im sure said people had something to say about  said lightweights, perhaps a little inside info or performance comparisons between the above....i mean his in depth perspective is very interesting im sure. [besides tool air-flow] ...what the oreck lady had to say...do tell please  you cant leave your post as is....that would be a crime.....ps. i also accept  p.mesgs  on the subject.    

Hi retardturtle1:

Let's see what the old memory recalls.  The manager, female, said to expect more involvement in ORECK operations by Judy ORECK, including TV commercials.  She likes Judy saying she is direct and honest.  The master repairman seconded that motion.  With the right set of circumstances I may have an opportunity to meet Judy at one of the Las Vegas stores.

The master repairman said both RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and ORECK's, due to fan first design, are equally at risk for fan breakage.  None is more vulnerable than the other.  As one/other sometimes maintains.  He does get dyson uprights in for repair that are clogged in both dirt path and filters.  He repairs them if customers are willing.  I didn't press him on the clutches, but he said he doesn't repair.  They advise customers to ship back to dyson for repair.  Which he says makes the dyson owners irate, especially when they learn they pay the shipping and don't ahve a vacuum for a few weeks.

Both said the ORECK vacuum workmanship beats the latest HOOVER lightweight but is on par with TACONY's lightweights.  Routine services on all the ORECK uprights, not covered under the extended warranty features, are $15, not including parts.  Primary clientele at least in this store are women and the cleaning services who use ORECk vacuums in business. 

ORECK's vacuums sell quicker than TACONY.  Why is that important?  Belt life is better new out of the box.  [Tho as recently mentioned here the latest TACONY vacuums have kevlar belts.  I didn't mention that factoid].  They're point is the longer for the sale of the new product the more degraded the belt.  In some cases a new belt is needed on the TACONY vacuums new out of the box.  The kevlar belts probably make this a moot issue and may be a result of the problem. 

Hope that assists.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE.

Thank you for sharing that...i found it very helpful....and i do believe ive seen judy a couple of times on tv...but i saw her brother not too long ago on a im really rich show..showing his house , plane...ect....really nice.  hope you get to meet her...but you would think tacony would use or make  a metal fan...i would..alot of the cleaning services that have us maintain their kirbys switched over to metal...and no more breakage. so true about the belts, the orig oreck belts are by far the best over essco replacements, tacony ..and i knew oreck was on par in quality with tacony...no doubt. but like the tacony more because of the price and the better performance and deeper cleaning,.sleeker look.  then a can for the rest.  hoover by far has nothing on either of the above...its just one bad ass looking vac with a beast of a motor for super deep cleaning....just all the downfalls that the above dont have..but id buy the either them without a motor...and put one of my many in there,....but in the end oreck is the proven winner overall just cause the vac does what its suppost to do....and do it reliably.....

ps.how does the oreck plat rate against the takony...perf. wise.

Peformance wise retardturtle1, I'd say TACONY uprights are a tad better than ORECK's. 

I see alot of employees defecting from TACONY and going over to ORECK.  Not the other way around.  That might be a coincidence particular to my personal experience and not widespread. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

hi carmine

odd thind i noticed tho carmine, i had to replace a mtr on a riccar sl and the wrty repl they sent was a lamb motor. but in orecks you see an oreck motor....im thinking that on the movement issue , oreck could be better to work for ..stronger family oriented comp. ..security.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hi retardturtle1:

Lamb motors have been a staple fo the vacuum industry going back to the 50's.  ORECK has a magic name.  The original lightweight upright.  A classic.  Icon for the industry.  The face of that product is Dave Oreck, the most recognizable person in the vacuum industry in the USA.

Carmine D.

On the same note, most ORECK stores have a life size photo of Dave hanging on the wall and pitching the ORECK upright.  Pride in your product, name, and reputation in the business. 

Carmine D.

I have an Oreck XL21 that I bought a few years back and I have to say that it was the warranty and service plan that sold me on it. After reading on this Garry vac, it does look cheap. if you read the details on the bags...they bill you $9.99 every 4 months. That's $30 a year. I can get the a year supply of Oreck paper bags like they show for $20 or the new ones with charcoal (which I buy) for $35. I cant see spending shipping and handling every time something happens to my vac. I have a local Oreck that I frequent, because im friends with the manager and I like to keep my home extremely clean. I own most of the Oreck products they offer. It is so much easier to go in and have my vac repaired for free when something goes wrong and I've never been without my vac for more than 3 days. I don't think this will hurt Oreck's business because the consumer that buys an Oreck/Dyson/Kirby will generally shop high end vacuums and knows that when you buy $50 to $199 vacs you get what you pay for and if they read the site for what is actually charged, they will see the scam they are running for continual charges.

I was in Oreck just last week and purchased that portable steamer when I picked up my vac from being serviced. I honestly wanted to see how it compared to the shark. I like it for disinfecting my wood floors and tile, but I cant say that I would use it for much more than that. Its suppose to be usable on windows and mirrors, but when it full of water its really awkward to invert or even hold it straight..Its just easier to use glass cleaner and a microfiber towel. I havent used the smaller attachments yet, but would like to see how well the small brush works around my toilet..if there is room for it to fit.

Ive met Judy Oreck once. I think she owns some of the stores in the Baton Rouge area as well. She had come to the New Orleans area for a new product release or somthing when I was in the store. I think I was told that she was an Ex wife of Tom Oreck maybe..Dont remember much about it though..Sry im off topic...just trying to hit on alot of subjects in this thread....

Carmine..If you havent gotten your Steamer yet, Im sure I can make a call and get you one..Like I said..I have friends...lol