Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

HankJones wrote:
It that were true, Dyson’s competitors (many are enemies) would attack the Ball technologies patents and prove them to be invalid.  A patent search proves that it was an ex-furniture designer turned Dyson design-engineer who alone created the [Dyson] steerable Ball. 

MooseUK provided video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pPlYR6Hql8


DIB

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS et al:

The ORECK business model is excellent and serves ORECK well as a nationwide provider of vacuums and floorcare products, parts and servicing.  All the commentary about ORECK stores and their staffs are always favorable.  It is the standard for the industry to emulate.  ORECK has never shuttered a store in its entire history and opens new ones all the time and still.  

ORECK suffered huge losses to its inventory, factory and headquarters after Katrina in 2005.   Most vacuum makers would have declared defeat, raised the white flag and folded up.  Some here predicted it would happen.  They were all wrong.  ORECK rebounded without missing a beat.  While most vacuum brand sales were tanking fast in 2008 due to the economic and consumer spending malaise, ORECK bucked the trend.  Even buys halo, which went belly up in less than a year.  ORECK is expanding its floorcare reportoire with several to be launched soon.  Like the Steam It, I posted about.  

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

If the ball vacuum is/was a success, perhaps it would be relevant to say who was first.  It's not.  Just the opposite.  The real issue is that the ball vacuum, like the dyson ball barrel, has proved to be a dud in the market place.  It is not worthy of a position in any vacuum brand's product lineup.  Lest the is arrogant, self-righteous, and because it employs an army of engineers and designers, believes it knows better what the buying public wants than the public themselve.  However, the down side of this thinking is that it is often the first step down the slippery path to oblivion.

Carmine D.

PS:  An ex-furniture designer is reponsible for the ball vacuum!  No doubt the reason he is no longer employed in the furniture business.

Carmine D. 

Lets throw this into the mix,just got done repairing a dc18 with the ball set up, The divertor valve inside the lower motor housing was stuck open,but the machine was real hard to manuver the machine was less than a year old,I know the machine was under warranty but the customer did not want to go thru the hassles dealing with dyson on getting it fixed under warranty[her words not mine].

Is dyson having problems with the ball mechanism not working properly it seemed to have a skipping and sticking problem,

I had 2 hours into the repair and did not charge the customer,she asked me if would happen again[ i just schrugged and said maybe i dont know] if i charged her for the repair then i would have been responsible for future problems] did not want to put my reputation on the line.

i know i wont get a strait answer from the dyson faithful here on the forum, but how can the engineers at dyson honestly let this product out to the public knowing that the problems are there.

It should be under a worldwide recall..............

regards

MOLE

mole wrote:

Good to know that you are making a living with the dragster.  You simply could not survive on 1 repair a week. Especially since you do not charge for repairs.

On the other hand I suspect that you make a decent living repairing all those other brands.  Why else would a repairman want to see them sold.  No problems, no income.

CarmineD wrote:
Dyson still kicked you and Hoover regardless of how you avoid the truth.  My experience in an Oreck store is not so favorable. 

It's true...
I've seen the data (charting).  As Dyson's upright share rose, Hoovers dove.  Fact!  All other mfgs. basically stayed flat.

DIB

mole wrote:

Hi Mole:

Very gracious gesture on your part.  Excellent good will. 

2 dyson dealers in North Las Vegas have offered me part time positions [I won't take anything full time] to repair and refurb dysons.  BTW, they also sell and repair MIELE, RICCAR, BOSCH and a host of others.  The dysons with the clutches [DC07 and DC14] are the most problem/repair prone high priced brand in their stores.  I mentioned that the DC25 's, which one store sells ON REQUEST ONLY, have been coming back with defective wiring harnesses that break too easily and too soon after purchase.  The store won't sell the DC15 and DC24.  The owner/manager said that he will probably add the DC25 soon to the list of the ball models that he will not sell.  Next time I visit, I'll ask about the DC18.  I didn't see any in his store for sale/repair, so maybe it was scrubbed already.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

HankJones wrote:

There is a contradiction of facts in the above statements.  Who's right and wrong?  Can't both be true unless then posters are talking about different time frames.  It is, as I tell HARDSELL about his posts and questions a logical contradiction.  Clarify please with source and references and time frames.  Thanks.

Carmine D.