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DysonInventsBig


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Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Original Message   May 14, 2009 5:50 pm
This message was modified May 15, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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mole


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Reply #10   May 15, 2009 6:01 am
I can appreciate dyson for doing this,but why make it so difficult on the rest of us repair people?

This is  train wreck waiting to happen..

Why is my dc 23 motor screaming its only 1 year old.?
Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121


Reply #11   May 21, 2009 8:01 pm
So...

Dyson finally admits that floating nozzles alone aren't the "be-all-to-end-all", thus a 'height-right' control is added.

I find it pretty strange that a "new" cleaner does not incorporate the latest features (level 3 root cyclone?). And what about an electrically driven brush? - not on your life! - they're still messing about with that bloody clutch - albeit a high torque one now! (I wonder if this is to combat Carmine's problem carpets?)

I think Dyson gives a DC14 each to separate design teams, locks them away for months and see what evolves within each team. Not very inspiring, is it?

Oh, I see that the clumsy cleaner head is still present. Clearly they don't think low profile is the way to go.

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110


Reply #12   May 21, 2009 11:15 pm
I'm assuming they want to stick with the clutch to reduce noise levels.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #13   May 22, 2009 7:11 am
With the new height adjustments, dyson has made all the previous models obsolete.  And their prices should plunge.  Reminiscent of HOOVER when it went from the 2 heights [normal and high on the Convertibles] and self-adjusting head on the Dials to the 3 and 4 manual height adjustments [low, normal, high, shag].  In HOOVER's case it was almost 40 years ago.  The prices of the 2 height convertibles and Dial w/o adjustments dropped until the models disappeared from production permanently.  Sadly, it takes awhile for the newest/novice vacuum makers in the industry today to make the historical connection and significance of these past benchmarks for themselves.

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 22, 2009 by CarmineD
Model2


~ It Beats...as it Sweeps...as it Cleans ~

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Reply #14   May 25, 2009 3:28 pm
Another online 'review':

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/15/dyson-announces-the-dc28-animal-we-go-hands-on/

~ However Clean - Hoover Cleaner ~
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900


Reply #15   May 25, 2009 5:54 pm
Model2 wrote:
Another online 'review'

Gee whiz, "pneumatic actuator, high-torque clutch . . .", I don't think my car has all that.

The same results can be had more simply. I can't imagine one of these holding up in the hands of your everyday "it-just-a-vacuum-cleaner" type users.

Venson
CarmineD


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Points: 5894


Reply #16   May 26, 2009 7:04 am
Venson wrote:
Gee whiz, "pneumatic actuator, high-torque clutch . . .", I don't think my car has all that.

The same results can be had more simply. I can't imagine one of these holding up in the hands of your everyday "it-just-a-vacuum-cleaner" type users.

Venson



Overengineered, overpriced, over hypeded, over hawked.  Dyson's 4 best features.

Carmine D.

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110


Reply #17   Jun 7, 2009 11:37 pm
Hey guys,

Just writing to let you know that I have obtained a DC28, and have been using it for the past several days.  I'll have a thorough review up tomorrow (I'm busy carpet cleaning as of the moment). All I can say right now is that exhibits excellent deep cleaning (the amount of sand left in the carpets by my parents DC14 is downright atrocious).  The fit and finish of this model is heads and shoulders above previous Dyson models, and the "airmuscle" tech definitely functions as intended.  There are plenty of electronically controlled parts on this machine: the brush-lift cam, the airmuscle pneumatic actuator, and even the clutch is activated and deactivated by a motor driven gear drive.  How this influx of electronic componentry affects long term reliability is yet to be determined.  However, I'm betting it's $600 price tag may deter "it's just a vacuum" consumers, but who's to say that more affluent customers are more protective and careful with their possesions....more to come. 
Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 986


Reply #18   Jun 8, 2009 9:41 am
iMacDaddy wrote:
Hey guys,<BR><BR>Just writing to let you know that I have obtained a DC28, and have been using it for the past several days.  I'll have a thorough review up tomorrow (I'm busy carpet cleaning as of the moment). All I can say right now is that exhibits excellent deep cleaning (the amount of sand left in the carpets by my parents DC14 is downright atrocious).  The fit and finish of this model is heads and shoulders above previous Dyson models, and the &quot;airmuscle&quot; tech definitely functions as intended.  There are plenty of electronically controlled parts on this machine: the brush-lift cam, the airmuscle pneumatic actuator, and even the clutch is activated and deactivated by a motor driven gear drive.  How this influx of electronic componentry affects long term reliability is yet to be determined.  However, I'm betting it's $600 price tag may deter &quot;it's just a vacuum&quot; consumers, but who's to say that more affluent customers are more protective and careful with their possesions....more to come. 



Can't wait... What are the chances you can upload a video on Youtube... That was be perfect...
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #19   Jun 9, 2009 12:50 pm
iMacDaddy wrote:
Hey guys,

Just writing to let you know that I have obtained a DC28, and have been using it for the past several days.  I'll have a thorough review up tomorrow (I'm busy carpet cleaning as of the moment). All I can say right now is that exhibits excellent deep cleaning (the amount of sand left in the carpets by my parents DC14 is downright atrocious).  The fit and finish of this model is heads and shoulders above previous Dyson models, and the "airmuscle" tech definitely functions as intended.  There are plenty of electronically controlled parts on this machine: the brush-lift cam, the airmuscle pneumatic actuator, and even the clutch is activated and deactivated by a motor driven gear drive.  How this influx of electronic componentry affects long term reliability is yet to be determined.  However, I'm betting it's $600 price tag may deter "it's just a vacuum" consumers, but who's to say that more affluent customers are more protective and careful with their possesions....more to come. 



Tacks, pins, nails, paper clips and the like will wreak havoc on the sophisticated gadgetry.  The more esoteric the more problematic. 

Carmine D.

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