Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

9 reviews in 2 months does not a product reputation make regardless of the brand and particularly for a very new product.  If you look at the category ratings they are not all 5's but close.  The reviewers gave the product an overall 5 despite the lesser average if properly combined.  Hence, you can't go by the stars alone.  You have to read the details.   AT best, if the product is not a red herring as may be the case, it is a niche seller.

BTW, at least 3 of the same of these reviewers had comments about other dysons: DC07, and DC25.  DID YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID?  Devil is always in the details.  Like I said 2 months is not a long time to make a valid review.  Takes much longer to know for sure.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Thanks for helping me understand the rating system, especially the ' devil in the details '.  I now know how Oreck gets its ratings.  Read the full reviews and it is about weight and not cleaning performance.  Then you just use a higher value for the star that rates weight over performance an viola you have a high rated Oreck.

Thanks again.

HARDSELL wrote:

Anytime.  Try one free.  People enjoy using them daily.  And the free canister comes with a better set of attachments than the $60 set with the DC31 handheld.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Ah yes.  The old toilet shuffle.  Topic is the DC28 upright.  No real need for a seperate canister.  Great hose suction as compared to Oreck.  Oh sorry.  Oreck does not have a hose.  Is that because it does not create enough suction like Hoover, because it would clog or becauser it adds weight.  Probably the first 2.

The only toilet shuffle is flushing $500 down one on a dyson.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Doesnt DYSON  and a toilet use the same CYCLONIC principle. Now does anyone know why rainbow is known as the portable cesspool.

MOLE

The more I think, the more I'm concerned that dyson has a $600 red herring on his hands.  Most here in the biz will know and say that the positioning of the cam on the brush roll of the DC28 is prone to trapping dirt and hair.  This dirt collection has always been problematic to brush roll ends and bearings.  We know that as a fact.  What makes dyson think it won't be for a cam that depends on cleanliness and freedom from dirt to operate properly.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:  Im no engineer..nor an expert on this new power head  but wouldnt a floating head with a little weight added  produce the same effect / results as a powered one/broll  at a much needed lower cost.   im just not seeing where it is really a huge factor...or better than height adjst / weighted floating head.   ive read every post and im curious as to why dyson doesnt say he was wrong....about height adj. and redo the head to accomidate the lever /knob.... make the ajustments in smaller settings to better fine tune to the carpet...its way cheaper and no reliability issues.....saves everybody money across the board. not putting him or his idea down.....hes a gifted man...but some things are fine and better left alone.

I personally think the floating head principle works fine for the most part in the UK and similar places that favour short pile carpeting. Dyson's original reasoning is that height adjustments on the cleaning head were rarely used and thus often incorrectly set, so for many people in many situations the floating head idea was a better compromise.

Clearly, in the US they've struggled to get a top rating on deep cleaning ability. The unofficial line appears to be that many of their competitors with better results in the tests achieve this by being over aggressive, causing carpet wear. If you recall on this forum a few years ago, someone posted non-public photos sourced via Dyson that showed carpet damage reprehensive of other  cleaners.

So, the Dyson DC28 is what they're putting forward as the answer... well if you're prepared to pay for it. I suspect the initial goal will be to see if they can get it to the top of the CR tests and similar - that would be a PR victory (of which they're so fond) at the very least.

M00seUK wrote:

wouldnt  rollers with replacable brushes [soft-med-stiff ] solve this prob....or a med texture bristle with a stiffner strip achive a deep clean with minimal carpet wear...you would think that more research would go into to the b-roll....i also see where and have learned that on eurekas vg-2 roller it vibrates as it cleans....a deep clean with less wear...many swear by the vg-2 but wonder why its not used in todays by-pass systems.  i feel that to achieve that deep clean your gonna have wear no matter what...so its a trade off...you take the good you gotta xpect  a little bad....just seems like alot of motors and gears/mechanisims to go wrong /tear up...at high cost. to repair./replace. At the price currently..and economy the way it is.im not seeing too many ready to dump down a load of cash....and as long as CR rates dysons as they have...they will never achive that initial goal....and if they tie with the leader...it means it took dyson many-many -many hundreds of dollars more to do it.

ive yet to see those pictures./posts....will see if i can track it down but thanks for the info on it

turtle1