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CarmineD
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Reply #62 Jun 30, 2009 6:19 pm |
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Hi HS,
Couldn't have been an Oreck --- it had four or five buttons too many.
Best,
Venson
Hi Venson:
Touche. ORECK's forte is simplicity. Plus excellent performance for the price. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Reply #63 Jul 3, 2009 1:23 pm |
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DysonInventsBig
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Reply #64 Jul 31, 2009 12:20 am |
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CarmineD
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Reply #65 Jul 31, 2009 6:57 am |
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Popular Mechanics, Consumer Reports and Wired give the DC28 high marks. Wired also gives it their “Editors Pick”. DIB
Wired and Popular Mechanics are industry paid source materials, paraphrasing your and HS criticism for CR. Apparently your opinions on the worthiness of these reviewers depends on whether the reviews suit your needs. Again, you don't read very well and impute your perspective into CR's words. High Marks? A "very good" vice a "good" is high marks? At $600 beannies? Promise is a high mark? The caveat about performance and price about dysons is a high mark? I excerpted for you to re-read again.
"The promise behind all that technology is better cleaning, since the system separately adjusts the vacuum head and brush to the cleaning surface. Dyson also says the automated process makes the vacuum easier to push. This latest Dyson earned a very good in our carpet-cleaning test and did better than most of its brand mates, getting a very good instead of Dyson’s usual good. It also scored well in our pet-hair test and in airflow for tools—a plus when you need to get spilled cereal and other messes out of the nooks and crannies of a couch. Four friendly push-button height settings are another plus, since you can still do some adjusting on your own. But as our handling test revealed, the DC28's added pulling power made this 21-pound vacuum relatively hard to push and pull. And while Dyson has been among the most reliable brands of upright vacuum in our repair surveys, some recommended models and CR Best Buys from similarly reliable brands cost hundreds less. The D17 Absolute Animal, $550, also scored a very good in our carpet tests." Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #67 Jul 31, 2009 8:50 am |
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Hello Ace: Thanks for the info. 9 reviews so far in almost 2 months most of these first time product reviewers. Stars are an indicator to a point. HAve to read the details. Devil always there. I just gleaned over the 9 reviews and will take a closer reading, of course especially the one from Woodbridge VA. I have noted these negative comments on these reviews despite the 4/5 star ratings: Hard to push, heavy, pricey, hair and rug wrap on the brush, small dirt bin container. Even with the 5 star ratings? It's called the honeymoon period of the product purchase. I'm sure more will come including a full blown review by Consumer Reports which already highlighted some of these negatives. But so far off to good start. $600 beans? I'm sure some of these paid less with the discounts being offered. What was that about HSN exclusivity? Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #68 Jul 31, 2009 7:24 pm |
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Hello Ace: Thanks for the info. 9 reviews so far in almost 2 months most of these first time product reviewers. Stars are an indicator to a point. HAve to read the details. Devil always there. I just gleaned over the 9 reviews and will take a closer reading, of course especially the one from Woodbridge VA. I have noted these negative comments on these reviews despite the 4/5 star ratings: Hard to push, heavy, pricey, hair and rug wrap on the brush, small dirt bin container. Even with the 5 star ratings? It's called the honeymoon period of the product purchase. I'm sure more will come including a full blown review by Consumer Reports which already highlighted some of these negatives. But so far off to good start. $600 beans? I'm sure some of these paid less with the discounts being offered. What was that about HSN exclusivity? Carmine D. You would be declaring Hoover or Oreck winners by a landslide with 9 positive reviews.
Back to Dyson. 9 positive out of 9 is still 100% positive.
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CarmineD
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Reply #69 Jul 31, 2009 7:36 pm |
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You would be declaring Hoover or Oreck winners by a landslide with 9 positive reviews. Back to Dyson. 9 positive out of 9 is still 100% positive. HS:
9 reviews in 2 months does not a product reputation make regardless of the brand and particularly for a very new product. If you look at the category ratings they are not all 5's but close. The reviewers gave the product an overall 5 despite the lesser average if properly combined. Hence, you can't go by the stars alone. You have to read the details. AT best, if the product is not a red herring as may be the case, it is a niche seller. BTW, at least 3 of the same of these reviewers had comments about other dysons: DC07, and DC25. DID YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID? Devil is always in the details. Like I said 2 months is not a long time to make a valid review. Takes much longer to know for sure. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #70 Aug 1, 2009 7:35 am |
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HS: 9 reviews in 2 months does not a product reputation make regardless of the brand and particularly for a very new product. If you look at the category ratings they are not all 5's but close. The reviewers gave the product an overall 5 despite the lesser average if properly combined. Hence, you can't go by the stars alone. You have to read the details. AT best, if the product is not a red herring as may be the case, it is a niche seller. BTW, at least 3 of the same of these reviewers had comments about other dysons: DC07, and DC25. DID YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID? Devil is always in the details. Like I said 2 months is not a long time to make a valid review. Takes much longer to know for sure. Carmine D.
Thanks for helping me understand the rating system, especially the ' devil in the details '. I now know how Oreck gets its ratings. Read the full reviews and it is about weight and not cleaning performance. Then you just use a higher value for the star that rates weight over performance an viola you have a high rated Oreck.
Thanks again.
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CarmineD
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Reply #71 Aug 1, 2009 7:37 am |
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Thanks for helping me understand the rating system, especially the ' devil in the details '. I now know how Oreck gets its ratings. Read the full reviews and it is about weight and not cleaning performance. Then you just use a higher value for the star that rates weight over performance an viola you have a high rated Oreck. Thanks again.
Anytime. Try one free. People enjoy using them daily. And the free canister comes with a better set of attachments than the $60 set with the DC31 handheld.
Carmine D.
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