Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

CarmineD wrote:

Almost  6 beans for a department store dyson, Whats the real price? I quess its a good thing though when a customer is looking at machines in that price range they start looking at the indys  offerings.

Speaking of which why have not the indys enbraced the dc28 with open arms considering that those wicked,no ethics,scammers are strickly profit motivated??

MOLE

mole wrote:
My friend, were I in Vegas or if this was "The Price Is Right", I'd call $350 give or take 20 bucks per a minimum order deal.

Venson

Hello Venson, MOLE et al:

BEST BUY is not the best buy for DC28 [pardon the pun].  Not at 6 beannies.  The sales associate was trying hard to make her very first DC28 sale but not for 6 C notes.  She finally recommended that I watch for BB sales and talked up the BB 30 day price match.  My feeling is this model will drop in price in the near term when it gathers more dust on it than in it.

Impressive rug performer.  Probably the best of all dyson's uprights to date.  The brush roll is vintage DC17 with the extras, cam and clutch.  Not all that heavy at 20.6 pounds unless you set the brush roll for low rug pile.  Then the bulk and weight are very obvious.  On a positive note, the new dyson height adjustments should serve dyson well for pre-empting the rug damage done by the DC17.  The trade off in push/pull weight is the rug cleaning.  You get easier hand and arm feel with the medium adjustment.  Drop it to low and cleaning improves but the airmuscle kicks in the arm-muscle. 

3 months for filter washing cycles on both filters-pre and post according to the sales associate.  I didn't verify.

Carmine D.

PS:

2 End caps go to HOOVER Platinum bagless upright and twin lightweight and canister and to BISSELL.  DC28 relegated to dyson's line up in the vacuum aisle.  No dyson canns.  DC28,DC17, DC25, DC24, DC14 in that order.  Watched the reaction of several shoppers.  Too many dyson models are confusing for most BB vacuum shoppers.  Onlyt two other HOOVER's beside the end caps.  The HOOVER WT Anniversary for $229.  The HOOVER TEMPO for $79. 

Carmine D.

Thanks Carmine.

Venson

Thanks Carmine - a good, objective review.
I suspect the price will fall in time. As is typically at this price range, you get the product out there, sell it for a RRP that's much as the early adaptors will take, then you can offer deep discounts to get people's interest in the next round of sales, which is where your best gains in margin / number of sales. But surely the main objective of this new model is to start getting Dyson some good PR via CR on it's cleaning performance.

It would be nice to see this model sold in the UK, but I have doubts that will happen. Compared to the US, not all that many homes have high pile carpet to justify the spend.

M00seUK wrote:
Hi MOOseUK,

Do you know of any particular reasons why? Price, maintenance, style? For some reason at least for the late '50s on high pile carpeting was considered luxurious in the U.S. Man-made fibers like nylon, etc., made the longer pile wall-to-wall carpeting relatively affordable for just about everyone.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:
Not sure why, I guess just 'the way it is'. It's not to say that people here don't have high pile carpets; our family home used to have this in one room. But my personal experience is that high pile is them norm in the US, at least in the homes I've been in on the west coast.

Thanks MOOseUK,

Just trying to aid to my understanding of the rest of the world's whys and wherefores.

Venson

Venson wrote:

Both are welcome.  My pleasure.

M00seUK, you are not the first here to say dyson has something to prove with a top notch rating from CR.  Severus has noted that the dyson engineers have most likely broken down many SEARS [Panosonic] Progressives and HOOVER Windtunnels and examined both under a microscope to learn their advantages and benefits.

If I were James, an engineer, I'd have my other top notch engineers on notice that their duty and not just their job is to design and produce a vacuum that will not only ace the CR rug performance ratings but ace their rankings.  Anything less than a NUMBER ONE spot is at best a first place loss.  Unacceptable. 

Carmine D.