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DysonInventsBig
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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm |
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~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~
James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.
 - Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
- The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
- The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.
 - The DDM is extremely powerful.
- The DDM can/will outlast its user.
- The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
- The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
- Controls are in the hose handle.
- A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle. Telescopic wand.
- A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update... - Exclusive: Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding. Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
- Exclusive: Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
- Exclusive: Patented Telescopic Wand: Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
- Exclusive: Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
- Motor burn out: If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
- Size: Small, DC05 - like. Compacts down via the patented TW.
- Controls: In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
- Retail: $799. Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.
This message was modified Mar 12, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
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Venson
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #159 Apr 9, 2009 9:23 pm |
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Venson,
I “get” that there is a “best way” to vacuum carpeting. I say, 90%-99% of the population does not know, nor care to know the “best way”. This Dyson nozzle can move as slow as anything in history and has a user [demand] benefit others do not have... it has an “extra gear” that is - it turns into, thru, under, around, changes directions, moves along side contours and obstacles better, faster, easier than anything on the market or maybe in history. If users want quality suctioning (slow deliberate strokes) the DC22 can do it. If users want “an extra gear” the DC22 can do it and no others can. Compared to the slow development past, this is a radical change and out-maneuvers anything and is exclusive only to Dyson.
DIB
DIB, No, no, no . . . sorry you're not getting off the hook. Your initial question regarded the time difference possibility between cleaning with a PN that has a narrow cleaning swath as opposed to one with a wider cleaning spread. I stated that the time frame varies as each of us have our own "speed" for vacuuming. However, the narrower the nozzle the more strokes you make to mange full coverage even if you do a sloppy job. As well, I said nothing about proper "suctioning". What I intended to convey is that a vacuum with a revolving brush plus good suction needs x-amount of time to do its job properly unless your prepared to spend money to just skim the top of your floors, rugs and carpeting for surface litter. This applies to vacuums of all brands, types and price levels. Also the "extra gear" you're speaking of is a called a universal joint and does not apply to this nozzle. Venson
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #161 Apr 12, 2009 4:53 pm |
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It appears that the DC21 is going away soon; many online retailers are labeling it as discontinued. I wonder if this may change the pricing of the DC22 and DC23, and if the DC23 will finally hit the mass retailers (it's now listed on BestBuy.com).
Hi iMacDaddy, I checked out the BestBuy site and the DC23 is listed but on back-order. Price is $600. The DC21 will still be around for a while. I did a search at pricegrabber.com and found refurbs for $310 and new models for $500. Venson
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #162 Apr 12, 2009 10:30 pm |
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DIB,
No, no, no . . . sorry you're not getting off the hook. Your initial question regarded the time difference possibility between cleaning with a PN that has a narrow cleaning swath as opposed to one with a wider cleaning spread. I stated that the time frame varies as each of us have our own "speed" for vacuuming. However, the narrower the nozzle the more strokes you make to mange full coverage even if you do a sloppy job.
As well, I said nothing about proper "suctioning". What I intended to convey is that a vacuum with a revolving brush plus good suction needs x-amount of time to do its job properly unless your prepared to spend money to just skim the top of your floors, rugs and carpeting for surface litter. This applies to vacuums of all brands, types and price levels.
Also the "extra gear" you're speaking of is a called a universal joint and does not apply to this nozzle.
Venson Venson, What’s your motivation? To bad mouth the DDM DC22 Motorhead only or prove it’s inventions are not improvements? Can you prove out, not just throw out red-herrings? Patent offices do not give patent protection for in the public domain u-joints (your descriptor of the DC22 Motorhead’s power nozzle). Dyson thought of an entirely new way to use a u-joint... to rest it on top of rolling pivots (3 wheels). His nozzle out-steers anything on the planet and it looks like Dyson already “owns” the pn steerable segment too via his patent protections. DIB
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Venson
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #163 Apr 12, 2009 11:24 pm |
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Venson,
What’s your motivation? To bad mouth the DDM DC22 Motorhead only or prove it’s inventions are not improvements? Can you prove out, not just throw out red-herrings?
Patent offices do not give patent protection for in the public domain u-joints (your descriptor of the DC22 Motorhead’s power nozzle). Dyson thought of an entirely new way to use a u-joint... to rest it on top of rolling pivots (3 wheels). His nozzle out-steers anything on the planet and it looks like Dyson already “owns” the pn steerable segment too via his patent protections.
DIB
Hi DIb, You asked a question and I gave a direct answer -- I thought -- and now you've hopped on some tangent about steering. There's little importance as to what out-steers what. We're not talking the Indie 500 or a slalom course just getting a clean floor. You've wasted your time and mine. Venson
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #164 Apr 13, 2009 5:07 am |
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Venson,
What’s your motivation? To bad mouth the DDM DC22 Motorhead only or prove it’s inventions are not improvements? Can you prove out, not just throw out red-herrings?
Patent offices do not give patent protection for in the public domain u-joints (your descriptor of the DC22 Motorhead’s power nozzle). Dyson thought of an entirely new way to use a u-joint... to rest it on top of rolling pivots (3 wheels). His nozzle out-steers anything on the planet and it looks like Dyson already “owns” the pn steerable segment too via his patent protections.
DIB
Hi DIb,
You asked a question and I gave a direct answer -- I thought -- and now you've hopped on some tangent about steering. There's little importance as to what out-steers what. We're not talking the Indie 500 or a slalom course just getting a clean floor. You've wasted your time and mine.
Venson Hey Venson, Tangent? I thought we were having a friendly debate... where I post of revolutionary [Dyson] inventions and market advancements and you and the non-friendly to Dyson independents shoot Dyson’s forward progress down. Am I misstating your position? Are you unhappy with the steering on the S7? It has a lot of steering slop... is this slop a drawback for you? DIB
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #168 Apr 13, 2009 8:54 am |
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The DDM DC22 is the best kept vacuum secret on the US vacuum market so far. After the dyson intor at the VDTA, the DDM DC22 should have been launched. Not yet? Dyson is having a problem here getting the launch off. It's stalled in the gate. Carmine D.
I would imagine that the indy only dc22 is being watched CLOSELY by the bean counters at the box accounts, Lets face it its really a premium priced piece competing with MIELE, RICCAR, bosch,and even some D.T.D. machines.
There is no guarantee that it will take off,even at the dyson faithful indy stores. It will be marketed by the box stores at wholesale and the indys get screwed again. NOTHING NEW GOING ON HERE,MY FRIENDS. REGARDS MOLE
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