Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.

dusty wrote:

Dusty:

Like the DC15 ball, which is a bust for sales, so is the DC24 and DC25.  Recall dyson dropped its price in the USA by $100 just a few months into its launch.  Sure retailers put the ball models at the top of their lists.  What exactly does that mean?  Explain it for me.  Do you really expect retailers to publicly say that the dyson ball models are THE WORSE SELLING DYSON MODELS THEY EVER CARRIED SAVE THE DC11?  If they were honest, perhaps.  But you know that retailers can't be honest and expect customers to buy new dysons, especially the ball models.  

I'm happy for you that the DC25 is good seller for you.  You are in a silent tiny minority of dyson ball fans.  I suspect for a limited number of vacuum buyers, if not given other options, the DC25 ball model is a likely seller.   DC24 ball is a terrible terrible vacuum.  Not worth the price [$399] w/wo the ball technology.   ORECK runs rings around it and over it.  DC24 gets the worse dyson ratings and rankings from Consumer Reports ever.   Let's see what happens when the DC25 comes up to bat.  If sales are lackluster now, after a CR rating/rank, if bad, they'll be dead in water.

Carmine D.

DIB:

If they are sooooooooooooooo good, tell me why the DC07/14 and the clutches are kaput!

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
Hiya MOLE,

I won't cast aspersions on the Dyson name but it and many other high-cost brands can definitely be found on eBay. Whatever the worth, people are not looking to get skinned in the attempt to have something decent.

Most of these are the genuine article -- meaning legally acquired -- and sold by reputable eBay vendors whose feedback can be easily checked in regard to customer satisfaction. That's good enough for me. If anything is in question, it's why I can't simply walk down the block and find the same priced as reasonably.

Venson

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:  You made those statements here in writing about the clutch chatter/mediocre CR DC07 and DC14 ranks.  I don't have to produce evidence to change your mind.  Believe what you want to believe in your mind.  Doesn't change the facts.  DC07 and DC14 are finito.  Gone.  Sayonara on the tin guitar.  Dyson clutches on US models are gone with the wind.   You can believe these dyson models are the best on the planet in dyson's reportoire.  Butt even James himself would disagree with you.  Unless of course he pulled them and discontinued clutch usage because they are soooooooooooooo good. 

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Venson/MOLE:

As pointed out by several posters here, DC07 and DC14 prices are going to have to come crashing down [with their discontinuance] on the new/used vacuum market.  When their prices do, so will all the new/used dyson upright prices on the USA market.  Compounded by the bad economic conditions and lackluster sales.

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

Dont you think its about time they come down to earth and come out of the denial that they been in?

Of course with the prices bottoming out,  the propoganda and fancy advertising will come thankfully to a end.

You got to admit they milked it and the public for all they could.

GOOD BY JIMMY/ AND D.I.B. go tell your story to the japanese..........

regards

mole

mole wrote:

Hi MOLE:

Truth be told, and sooner or later it is, dyson's best sales years in dollars and units were 2005/6.  Despite all the hullabaloo here since 2005/6 by dyson cheerleaders about the latest in vacuum features and technology [pause for a short period of guffaws and coughing]..........................................................., its been all down hill for James and dyson since.   Dyson is and always will be a niche player in the USA vacuum market, if it survives.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
Dusty,

Let me take this one...  This is something I have studied for some time...

They're are two primary groups selling Dyson's on eBay...  1) Authorized dealers and 2) Thieves.  I have posted many police blotters, news - online stories, news - video and surveillance video detailing Dyson thefts.  Saying something over and over does not make it true, bellying up and proving-something-out makes it true.

DIB

dusty wrote:
Dusty,

Dyson Ball:
There are few products that are all things to all people for sure.  The Dyson Ball is a huge break-thru product that answers a problem other manufacturers *failed to answer.  And it turns better than anything on the planet!  I was told many times... the DC18 Slim sells itself.  The Slim commercial sold the vacuum and it never suctioned up a single thing.  People want better lives and Dyson delivered and is being rewarded monetarily.

FYI, Dyson has a patent application that addresses the inability for Dyson Ball vacuums to lay prone/near prone.  The patent does not claim any prone/near prone abilities but the illustrations do.  The stabilizer wheels collapse forward and out of the way.

DC22 steering:
I was challenged here to look closer at the DDM Motorhead nozzle.  After viewing video of the turning abilities, it is a winner and stands alone.  But, I have yet to see this Wessell Werk or Riccar powerheads, I’d like to see em, I’d appreciate it if could point me to an illustration, etc..

If this nozzle (9” to 11”) were place on other (less expensive) Dyson canisters I’d think they would sell very well based on the Slim and Dyson Ball sales.  I too, see this vacuum being desired by those in smaller homes, condos and apartments.

DC27:
I missed the spring.  Thank you.  I watched the DC14 and/or DC07 demonstrated on HSN long ago and knew then that the front of the nozzle lifted on the pull back stroke (after running the clip back frame-by-frame) not good for suctioning to say the least, although it maybe was due to a fast pulling back, but I’m not sure.  The spring is a cheap N fast fix.  The DC27 carrying handle looks like it’s the lowest in his full size category.  Now Dyson has 3 vacuums in 3 categories that can be carried easily/easier and/or carried upstairs easily/easier than before.


DIB

*  There are a few patents on so-called steerable, but the suffer with much NOTHING that reacts (nozzle reacts) in concert to wrist turn as the Dyson.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi DIB

Interesting to hear Dyson is looking at the issue with the ball vacuums inability to lay prone!  Sounds interesting the stabilizer wheels collapse forward, look forward to seeing that invention!  Can the illustration be viewed?

Now the original DC01 used a rubber piece (very small) on the pivoting soleplate to make sure it said in contact with the floor!  Like an elastic band effect! I have to say the very first DC01 that didn't have a pivoting soleplate performed better I think in terms of cleaning performance! The pivoting soleplate on the DC01 was not seal so well as they are now so some of the suction was lost I think (from experience of both types).

DC18