Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Glad you asked Dusty.  First, TARGET and BEST BUY stores have/had the DC16 giveaway just with the DC25 ball model, so you are not completely correct.  This tells me dyson DC25 Ball is not selling at those retailers and the giveaway is a way to jump start sales.  Else the stores, which carry other dyson models, tho not sure for how long, would follow the "any dyson sale for $499" merits, as you mention.  I should add the DC16 is a dud by all accounts.  Too high a price.  Too short a run time.  So it's possible the giveaway is a way to also cull the retailer shelves of the DC16 inventory.

WRT ORECK.  Recall a certain dyson poster here always ridicules the brand for its giveaways [not you].  Since dyson took a page from ORECK's marketing play book, he's not said anything about dyson falling into the same marketing scheme.   BTW, HOOVER does now too!  Huge difference between ORECK and dyson ball giveaways.  First, ORECK's giveaways come with a purchase of as little as $299.  Always have.  It is a routine selling feature of ORECK.  Second, ORECK is a straight upright cleaner w/o on board tools [like dyon].  The companion compact canister supplements the cleaning team.   The iron/handcleaner/stick and other similar gift is icing on the cake to close the ORECK deal.  The higher priced ORECK's use the free tunes as a distinct selling feature.   Again, always have.  BTW, unlike dyson ORECK gives a free in home no obligation free trial of 30 days.

Carmine D.

Dusty, I would add that some users, like me, are not cann fans.  I and others prefer a lightweight upright/stick, like ORECK, to push and pull around for daily/quick use.  Not a cann with on board tools that I have to lug out and pull around with me throughout the cleaning effort.  I can use my ORECK on over 1500 square feet of mixed flooring coverings in 15 minutes [all one level].  I've used a tiny cann [granted w/o a P/N but a 9 inch rug/floor tool] and gave up after 30 minutes w/o the same grooming and cleaning on the rugs and a job not finished. 

Carmine D.

                      XL $300           XL Silver $400        XL Gold $600         XL Platinum $800

Price Slashed                                      $50                       $100                          $200

Free Iron                                              $130                    $130                          $130

Hand Held          $150                            $150                   $200                         $250 

Tune ups                                                 $40                  $200                          $400

Net                      $150                           $30                   -$30                         -$180   

Recommended bags $40                      $40                     $50                            $50 (no upright bags included)

Back to                 $200                         $70                    $20                          -$130

Looks like Dyson still has profit left after free gift unlike Oreck.  I prefer on board tools as opposed to having to store then drag them out.  Not to mention having to lug a 5 lb hand held around. Dyson has always been returnable within 30 days due to store policies. 

Just observing the price slashing it seems as if Oreck took a page from Dyson.  Why all the slashing? Is Oreck having finance problems ?  I know their vacs are worth about $50.  If they could only get those ridiculous prices without the freebies they might be profitable.

Lest you forget, Tom Oreck, CEO of ORECK, was the first vacuum industry Exec to make statements in January 2009 to the financial news networks on nationwide TV about ORECK 2008 sales.  Saying and I quote:  "ORECK fared better than most of the industry but not as well as we pedicted for 2008."  If lucky, lucky, dyson may publish its results earlier than Nov 2009 [legal requirment] for 2008.  And has made no public announcements about 2008 sales or if it has the results are so bad no dyson insiders here will post them.  Recall, the pound is down by 30 percent against the dollar and down against other EU currencies.  So the dyson numbers' wizards will be looking to fudge/spin to look good.   Have to wait to see how and by how much.

Talking about canns, when was the last time you lugged out your Rainbow?  What happened to that old Lux tank you use to own?  What do you own and use now?   

Carmine D.

In fact, many retailers, after threats of legal action and suits by vacuum customers, have taken dysons back long after 30-60-90 days.  The reason in part, retailers are culling their dyson inventories in these bad times.  And so many dyson refurbs for sale.  And probably the reason in part the Dc07 and Dc14 are being scrubbed by dyson.  To many returns due to faulty clutch chatter.  Drives people and pets crazy.  Like scratching your nails over the chalk board.  Or a rake over the concrete.  Just gets under your skin.

Carmine D. 

Ol tom must be so profitable that he is trying to give orecks away.  Why else would he slash prices by 25%.  OTH, maybe he just needs cash flow. Fared better still may not mean good.

I do not use canns as you know.  I already told you I do not like to drag out the attachments.  The Lux has lonnnnng been gone.  I primarily use the Kirby although it is a pain in the rear.  It is similar to oreck because if not using simply as an upright.  I still like its cleaning power over oreck even though it is a pain.  I perfer deep cleaning as opposed to surface cleaning.

DIB:

All you have to do is read some of the customer reviews for these dyson models.  It's all there.  Just have to look and read.

Carmine D.