Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

DIB:

I would half-heartedly and rather reluctantly cave to your non-sensical time/effort arguments about the baby size power nozzle if the latest dyson model didn't come with a $700/$800 price tag.  Plus, the DC18 nozzle is soooo good according to you that dyson discontinued the model?  Steerable and manuverable?  Come on.  It's 9 inches.  What's to steer and manuever?  It's a petite play size power head!  I have a play toy bissell pink carpet sweeper that my granddaugters enjoy using.  It dates from the 1950's.  Like your DDM DC22 it has a 9 inch cleaning swath and a 7 1/2 inch brush roll.  Used daily, it will do the clean up job as well and as quick as the DDM DC22.  Probably holds the same amount of dirt in its dual dirt bins too.  AND it's a classic!  Appreciated in value over the years. 

You still aren't convincing me/us on this dyson model.  No wonder there is nothing coming out of the VDTA on this model. 

Carmine D.

BTW, that BISSELL play toy carpet sweeper with the same size nozzle and brush roll as your $800 dyson is called the "Little Queen."    Don't you love it!  Tell you what I'll do, I'll consider a trade if you are willing to fork up some cash to boot with your DDM DC22 in the exchange [if my 3 granddaughters agree].

Carmine D.

Carmine,

I do not post to try to convince you or other Dyson rock-throwers of anything.  I float out Dyson info and see what kind of negative response it attracts.  You and others have not let me down.  Thanks.

DIB

CarmineD wrote:

Don't forget the toy Oreck and Hoover Platinum.  They are not full sized vacs so they must be toys.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hi DIB,

Please carefully check out Wessel Werks power nozzles AND straight suction nozzles as well. They are just as steerable.

The small wheels on the Little Dyson model's body do not perform the same as swivel casters. They are intended for easy back and forth motion as is the roller on the PN's neck. The portion of the neck that swivels to the right or left appears to attach directly at the PNs body. The portion of the neck that pivots up and down allows better accommodation for users of different heights and lets the cleaning wand be brought flat to the floor for cleaning under low items like beds and sofas.

Wessel Werks nozzles do about the same thing the pivot joints are switched and steer just as easily with merely a twist of the wrist. Wessel Werks' vertical swivel joint (up and down movement) happens at the attachment point on the body and the right to left swivel point follows. However, there is no short hose to bridge the gap. That design was to improve maneuverability but lessen maintenance problems as Eureka and Hoover and a few other PN producers had tried the same flexible hose thing on PNs years ago and gave it up.

What I did like about the Dyson mini PN is that per the images supplied, the brushroll comes away from the drive at the end of its chamber with just a quarter-turn of a screw meaning no fussing around taking off or putting on a belt. However, similar idea are already in longtime use -- check out Sebo.

Best,

Venson

Hi Venson,

I'd like to see these.  Could you post some links?

Thanks,
DIB

Carmine,

I can always count on you to push me to learn more Dyson.  I just watched a DC22 video where a user can turn the Motorhead PN almost 90 degrees (while standing stationary).  Dyson finally got the DC18-like steering right with is beauty, unlike the heavy, bulky, hard to turn DC21.  The DC22 should out-steer (maneuver) all power nozzles!

Besides being condescending, patronizing and loud, what do you think those [some not all] independent con men can produce in the way of measurements or science that will dissuade those who prefer a lightweight steerable DC22’s nozzle over the traditional (heavy) 100 old swivel designs.


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hi DIB,

The link is as follows: http://www.wessel-werk.com/

Click on the "Download" link and all and you will see the major part of Wessel Werk floor tool, PNs, turbo tools and other accessories with downloadable PDF brochures. The EBK340 electric nozzle is the electric power nozzle that turns up on all sorts of brands from everywhere -- Bosch, Oreck Dutch Tech, Hyla, Big Power. It is also a popular addition to top-of-the-line central vacuum attachment sets.

Look at the straight suction floor tools as well. If you know Dyson's JH-25 combi-tool and compare it to the Wessel Werk you'll see it's the same design idea as the better combi-tools made at Wessel Werk.

You may download a PDF of the newest of Sebo's PNs, Model ET-H, at the following URL --http://www.sebo-vacuums.com/frameset.htm?dir=Products

Venson

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

ORECK has a 12 inch nozzle head and 10 inch brush roll.  A 'chevron' pile lifting brush roller with direct suction of 102 mph air flow and brush revolving speed of 6,500 RPM.  No toy.  Plus, unlike any dyson ever made and marketed, ORECK has merited The Carpet and Rug Institute Seal of Approval and always has.  Dyson never does/will.  Be specific on the Platinum, there are 6 in all.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

The DDM DC22 has a very limited market and consumer appeal.  Even less in bad economic times.   Japanese market is not reflective of the rest of the world's consumers.  In fact, just the opposite.  Hence the reason James went into the Japanese market first to test the water with this model.  If he went to the USA/UK market, the vacuum would bomb.  It's less than niche seller.  Only appeals to people with cramped quarters and extra cash to spend.  Alot of the former, but not many of the latter.

Carmine D.