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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Original Message   Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm
It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.
This message was modified Jun 24, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #24   Apr 2, 2009 6:27 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
I am glad that they are doing away with the clutch.  I bought a used DC14 from Craig's List about a year ago, and the clutch clicks a little bit every time I use it.  Especially if I recline the handle after I've turned the machine on.  Very annoying, though it doesn't seem to affect performance.  I think it's an inane and unnecessary system and I'm glad to see it go.  Another motor with its own power switch would be so much better!



I thoroughly agree.  The clutch on dysons is a prime example of dyson overengineering at its extremest.  It adds an extra $135 of useless value to the product and passes it along at purchase and for repairs.  By scrubbing the clutch on USA dysons, if in fact it is scrubbed [still some conflicting reports], dyson is admitting the same.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #25   Apr 2, 2009 8:28 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
I am glad that they are doing away with the clutch.  I bought a used DC14 from Craig's List about a year ago, and the clutch clicks a little bit every time I use it.  Especially if I recline the handle after I've turned the machine on.  Very annoying, though it doesn't seem to affect performance.  I think it's an inane and unnecessary system and I'm glad to see it go.  Another motor with its own power switch would be so much better!

CarmineD wrote:
I thoroughly agree.  The clutch on dysons is a prime example of dyson overengineering at its extremest.  It adds an extra $135 of useless value to the product and passes it along at purchase and for repairs.  By scrubbing the clutch on USA dysons, if in fact it is scrubbed [still some conflicting reports], dyson is admitting the same.

Carmine D.


Not even close.  The clutch works as designed.  Chatter: varying carpeting is a moving target for the brushroll and difficult to get right and/or clutch wear after a few years.  The motorized brushroll is better for sure.  Additionally...  the motorized brushroll will lessen the likelihood of a Dyson owner wandering into a non-Dyson independent looking for a belt or clutch repair.  

$135 for clutch repair when it's a 10 minute repair and $20 part?  ...Like I said, Dyson has to do all he can to keep his users from setting foot in non-Dyson dealer shops.


DIB
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DC18


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #26   Apr 2, 2009 11:59 pm
If you look on the Dyson Canada Website it has the DC27 on there with a clutch!

DC18

dusty


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #27   Apr 3, 2009 12:18 am
DC18 wrote:
If you look on the Dyson Canada Website it has the DC27 on there with a clutch!

DC18


I'll be able to confirm the Canadian version either today or early next week (waiting for the order to arrive) but as I understand it the DC27 is a dual motor unit in Canada.  Just an observation but instead of assuming it's a clutch that we see, could it not be an on off switch for the brush motor instead?

Dusty
DC18


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #28   Apr 3, 2009 1:14 am
dusty wrote:
I'll be able to confirm the Canadian version either today or early next week (waiting for the order to arrive) but as I understand it the DC27 is a dual motor unit in Canada.  Just an observation but instead of assuming it's a clutch that we see, could it not be an on off switch for the brush motor instead?

Dusty

Be interesting to know if the Canadian version of the DC27 is clutchless.  I'm told the UK version does have the clutch setup.  Shame thought it would have a separate motor and better brushbar on the UK version!

DC18

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #29   Apr 3, 2009 7:40 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
 

$135 for clutch repair when it's a 10 minute repair and $20 part?  ...Like I said, Dyson has to do all he can to keep his users from setting foot in non-Dyson dealer shops.


DIB



Sadly DIB, dyson in the UK/with one corporate office in Chicago, Illinois has no more success keeping present and former dyson owners from frequenting independent vacuum store owners/operators than it does policing all the USA retailers for its MAP policies.  It's an impossible task. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #30   Apr 3, 2009 7:41 am
CarmineD wrote:
Sadly DIB, dyson in the UK/with one corporate office in Chicago, Illinois has no more success keeping present and former dyson owners from frequenting independent vacuum store owners/operators than it does policing all the USA retailers for its MAP policies.  It's an impossible task. 

Carmine D.


Hence the ORECK business model is superior.

Carmine D.

Motorhead


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #31   Apr 3, 2009 11:07 am
Here's the parts diagram for the US DC27 models.  Naysayers note the complete lack of clutch, the separate brushbar motor is clearly visible. 

Hopefully this will clear things up once and for all (ahem, Carmine), though somehow I doubt it.  Either way, any arguing from here on out about the "clutch troubles" is pointless since it will no longer be an issue for US models.
CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #32   Apr 3, 2009 12:53 pm
Sorry MH- but thanks.  A picture may be worth 1000 words but seeing in person is believing.  Of course, once dyson updates its UK/USA Web Sites with the DC27, I'll be a believer.  No offense, sir.  But James carries more weight than you.  A stray picture[s] with no dyson annotations doesn't impress me as truthful and final.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #33   Apr 3, 2009 1:02 pm
MH,

Thanks for the diagram!  Glad to see you back.

DIB



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