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Trilobite
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The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm |
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First upright from Miele | | 29 February 2008
This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7. It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest of room layouts”. According to the company, the decision was made following numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele but would only use an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image. |
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Motorhead
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #479 Apr 1, 2009 10:12 pm |
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The fact is that I said here several times that it is my opinion the MIELE S7 is not the best suited vacuum for this user. My opinion is based on the facts and circumstances of her household cleaning needs and experiences with her MIELE and the dealer and company up to now. As I also said, I hope my opinion now is wrong and does prove a fact later. Carmine D. Hi Carmine, Can you please explain this for me? How is the Miele S7 not a good vacuum for Catlady, or anyone who has pets? From my experiences, and considering it's just a Capricorn and a 236 power nozzle in an upright body, it's a very versatile, capable machine on both carpets and bare floors. The stretch hose (even this slightly shorter hose on current production models; I have not seen the red one with the long hose) is also more than adequate for above-floor dusting. Worst case, in a home with mostly bare floors, you could use the Parquet Twister bare floor tool with the wands. But when I used one, I found that with the brushroll turned off it's actually not bad at removing surface litter. Definitely better than other uprights with a brushroll on/off feature. -MH
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CarmineD
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #480 Apr 2, 2009 7:32 am |
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Hi Carmine,
Can you please explain this for me? How is the Miele S7 not a good vacuum for Catlady, or anyone who has pets? From my experiences, and considering it's just a Capricorn and a 236 power nozzle in an upright body, it's a very versatile, capable machine on both carpets and bare floors. The stretch hose (even this slightly shorter hose on current production models; I have not seen the red one with the long hose) is also more than adequate for above-floor dusting.
Worst case, in a home with mostly bare floors, you could use the Parquet Twister bare floor tool with the wands. But when I used one, I found that with the brushroll turned off it's actually not bad at removing surface litter. Definitely better than other uprights with a brushroll on/off feature.
-MH
Sure, and I did already here for her benefit. It's probably part of the 'filler' you did not want to read.
First, I said the S7 Salsa is not the best suited for her needs. I never said it was not good. Little different. Second, at the bag usage rate already discussed here by the user, she will, at the current cost of bags, pay about $100 a year for disposable bags. By her own admission, she hopes to have the vacuum 8-10 years. Do the math for bags over the life of the vacuum. Third, add to the cost for normal maintenance items and repairs needed. MOLE was kind enough to elaborate. You did too. What is the cost of a cord set from an authorized MIELE dealer for the S7? $130. Indies like MOLE can do it cheaper, I'll bet. Be that as it may, the cost of the purchase of the S7 [$600] will more than double/triple over the useful life. Usually, consumer goods depreciate/get amortize over their useful life. Not in this particular case. BTW, my opinion is not the only. Our forum moderator says the same. He would never have recommended this S7as a choice. [Probably more filler you missed]. Carmine D.
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #481 Apr 2, 2009 9:23 am |
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Sure, and I did already here for her benefit. It's probably part of the 'filler' you did not want to read. First, I said the S7 Salsa is not the best suited for her needs. I never said it was not good. Little different. Second, at the bag usage rate already discussed here by the user, she will, at the current cost of bags, pay about $100 a year for disposable bags. By her own admission, she hopes to have the vacuum 8-10 years. Do the math for bags over the life of the vacuum. Third, add to the cost for normal maintenance items and repairs needed. MOLE was kind enough to elaborate. You did too. What is the cost of a cord set from an authorized MIELE dealer for the S7? $130. Indies like MOLE can do it cheaper, I'll bet. Be that as it may, the cost of the purchase of the S7 [$600] will more than double/triple over the useful life. Usually, consumer goods depreciate/get amortize over their useful life. Not in this particular case. BTW, my opinion is not the only. Our forum moderator says the same. He would never have recommended this S7as a choice. [Probably more filler you missed]. Carmine D. So, what would you recommend?
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #482 Apr 2, 2009 11:43 am |
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Seems like you are still the book of knowledge on vacuums. That is more useful than opinions. Knowledege itself is useless, unless and until it is applied correctly and properly, through one's opinions. All MH's, and others' vacuum knowledge, is of little benefit to others unless they share here with us by way of opinions. Carmine D. Declaring "MH's or others" knowledge (of facts) to be an opinion is your opinion and a oxymoron. I believe MH through out some facts (aka knowledge) that were not known here otherwise. DIB
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Motorhead
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #485 Apr 2, 2009 12:47 pm |
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Sure, and I did already here for her benefit. It's probably part of the 'filler' you did not want to read. First, I said the S7 Salsa is not the best suited for her needs. I never said it was not good. Little different. Second, at the bag usage rate already discussed here by the user, she will, at the current cost of bags, pay about $100 a year for disposable bags. By her own admission, she hopes to have the vacuum 8-10 years. Do the math for bags over the life of the vacuum. Third, add to the cost for normal maintenance items and repairs needed. MOLE was kind enough to elaborate. You did too. What is the cost of a cord set from an authorized MIELE dealer for the S7? $130. Indies like MOLE can do it cheaper, I'll bet. Be that as it may, the cost of the purchase of the S7 [$600] will more than double/triple over the useful life. Usually, consumer goods depreciate/get amortize over their useful life. Not in this particular case. BTW, my opinion is not the only. Our forum moderator says the same. He would never have recommended this S7as a choice. [Probably more filler you missed]. Carmine D. I don't see how cord replacement would factor into the equation of "normal maintenance items". Unless it is repeatedly run over, chewed by the dog, or used to pull the machine around, there's no reason the cord shouldn't last the life of the machine. Potential customer abuse adds hundreds to the initial purchase price in repairs for *any* machine, so this shouldn't just apply to Miele. I did notice how it would cost $100 per year in bags alone to operate this machine. For that, I only have one thing to say: Why are bags best again? That being said, my final question is, are you saying you would recommend a Dyson to Catlady based on its extremely low operating cost, if any at all?  -MH
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Motorhead
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Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #486 Apr 2, 2009 12:54 pm |
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Actually, DIB on these points I agree with you. Now if you can end my confusion on the clutchless/brushroll saga of DC27, I would be much obliged. Carmine D. I was going to put this in the DC27 thread but since you asked I'll put it here. It's as simple as this: The US version of the DC27 has two motors with a brushroll shut-off switch right next to the on/off switch (think DC17). The UK version on the other hand, has a completely different brushroll with the clutch setup. There are no DC27s sold here with the clutch.
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