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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #379   Mar 23, 2009 9:56 am
Hi Melanie,

I was under the impression that the shop could do the back panel replacement. Have they refused flat out or are they hemming and hawing?

Tell them that is what you want and what you are due as this is their mess. It should be possible to handle this as before. Either, keep the cleaner at home and use it until the part comes in or insist upon a comparable loaner machine if they say they need to keep yours. Also, get their repair schedule (estimated time for the part to arrive plus time estimated to complete replacement.)

Refuse the "melting" offer and insist on a part replacement.

Venson
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #380   Mar 23, 2009 10:07 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Melanie,

I was under the impression that the shop could do the back panel replacement. Have they refused flat out or are they hemming and hawing?

There should be no need for a lot of fussing about this with these people or getting yourself upset. Tell them that a replacement is what you want and what you are due as this is their mess. Had they been a little more observant and analytical the problem would never have happened.

It should be possible to handle this as before. Either, keep the cleaner at home and use it until the part comes in or insist upon a comparable loaner machine if they say they need to keep yours. Also, get their repair schedule (estimated time for the part to arrive plus time estimated to complete replacement.)

Refuse the "plastic melting" offer and insist on a part replacement. Also suggest that they request an instruction sheet from Miele along with the replacement part just to be sure things are easier to accomplish.

Venson
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #381   Mar 23, 2009 10:09 am
catlady wrote:
I spoke with Jim at Miele this morning and explained how the Vac Shop wanted to do the repair on my vacuum.  I asked if this was acceptable to Miele and he said he could see it from both of our prospectives, but agrees that with this being a new machine it should be repaired properly by replacing the part.  At that point in time I did ask if they could replace the vacuum since it was a test model and I've had 2 hose issues and the repair because the vacuum would not lean down all of the way.  I didn't even mention the indicator not working properly.  He told me that he did request a replacement for me a couple of weeks ago but it was not authorized.  He said if he had it his way I would already have a new vacuum, but it is out of his control.  He then told me that he will have his Supervisor call me (Sally) if anything else to consol me about this.  Hmmm, I don't think there's going to be  much consoling at this point in time.  I'm pretty close to ripping into someone, but I know that won't get me anywhere. 

I'll update after I speak with Sally.

Melanie


This is what should happen!!!

Miele should send you a NEW S7, shipped to your house with a ups pick up for your old machine,The new machine should be New and factory sealed. Bosch did and does this as they want to build their customer service reputation, If this was handled right from the begining with your machine [You'd Be happy as a clam and send them customers ,but no miele is all about miele. So much for emmer-besser.......

regards

MOLE

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #382   Mar 23, 2009 10:53 am
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?

Melanie

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #383   Mar 23, 2009 11:22 am
catlady wrote:
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?</p><p>Melanie

I don't know but I was wondering how you did it. It may have been me as I noticed my post to you looks like a quote. Well, not to worry -- message received.

Venson
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #384   Mar 23, 2009 11:58 am
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #385   Mar 23, 2009 12:48 pm
SEVERUS wrote: "Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. "
THANK YOU, SEVERUS, FOR PROVING MY POINT!  No matter what happens now, Miele and Melanie both lose. Miele has lost the opportunity to keep faith with a customer, and who knows how much business, and Melanie loses time and energy, and can never be anything but the b*tchy ole catlady to the vac shop because they broke faith and want to blame her.
Melanie and all: I called Lindhaus today, and asked for Al Carpenter by name. Al was busy, but Bill was very pleasant. I asked him just to log on and read the thread to see what his supposed competition is up to in the customer service arena. I do not know what, if anything, they can or will do, but everyone who will ever buy a vacuum needs to know what Miele is really like when  it's time to make good on the "Immer Besser" spiel. Obviously Miele dealers do not read this forum, or there would be a tsunami of outrage from them. Dealers and reps who really care and work hard to keep faith with their customers will continue to lose business over this one incident. I hope they wise up, tell Miele to pack sand where 141cfm can't pull it out, and give Lindhaus,Sebo, Simplicity/Riccar and Emer a call.
Thanks again, Severus. All who will boycott Miele because of this instance, please post it here, and every Miele sale that is thwarted in favor of another brand, please post it here. Let's show Miele just how much they have saved on this replacement and see if they can figure out how to save their a**es.
The gloves are off as far as I am concerned,
Trebor
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #386   Mar 23, 2009 1:36 pm
Severus wrote:
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 

Hi Severus,

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. Though I thoroughly understand that the point is moot, the issue is that the independent dealer/authorized service facility by lack of forethought -- and by lack of a little looking -- botched what should have been a simple repair. From the sound of it, even more heinous, is appears highly likely they didn't even get original parts for the initial repair. All that is no fault of Miele's whose position is that, or so they told me, the repair people should be responsible for setting things right, not the company nor at the company's expense.

It would be great if Miele replaced the whole machine but that would, I think, let the brilliant folks at the repair shop off the hook and they don't deserve to be. Explain to me how I may step forward to honor a debt that YOU owe and later hold you accountable for it? Unless the dealer who did the damage agrees to reimbursing the manufacturer in advance of replacement what's to be done? In this case save for the hose, the cleaner operates well and as there is no damage or defect regarding the rest of the machine I'd settle for the replacement of the back panel at the dealer's expense. Anyway . . .

My two Mieles are great and thus far have presented me with no problems. The purchases were intended to at last expose myself to a little bit extra of luxury -- like giving up Melmac for bone china. HOWEVER, I have long been vociferous that Miele and several other niche-brand vacuums are not the only game in town due to ridiculously high prices. There are other far less expensive machines that will do the same work as well or better. Purchases of vacuums at the $1,000 a pop or above should only be made if they are easily affordable to the buyer.

Here I also repeat myself. If you are not out to impress the neighbors with state-of-the-art gizmos and merely want a decent, worthwhile machine consider rebuilt or refurbished metal Luxes, Kirbies, Tristars, etc. They're good, they're tough and can carry even heard-hearted users a long way down the road with reasonable care. If you just must have new but have to consider the pocket book -- check out Hoover/TTI and Kenmore, etc. None of these may be your dream machine but they'll get work done.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #387   Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm
Severus wrote:
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 


Hi Severus,

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.   Venson

By all accounts, Melanie's MIELE S7 is a 'test' model that is for demo and display by the dealer[s].  Not for sale to the general public.  There is a story here in the story which we don't have and didn't get.

Carmine D.

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #388   Mar 23, 2009 2:38 pm
My understanding was that by purchasing a prototype, I would complete surveys with what I liked/didn't like about the vacuum so that Miele could improve them before actually releasing them.  I completed 3 surveys before the Miele S7 was officially released.  My Vac Shop received 6 to sell under those conditions.  It wasn't a floor demo model or an in store test model.  Unless I misunderstood something along the way??

Melanie

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