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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #97 Apr 10, 2009 3:03 pm |
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I believe that Carmine is providing his educated opinion, and it does seem plausible.
There is nothing wrong with providing opinion, I just don't believe opinion should be offered up as fact. I have asked nothing more of Carmine (whom I do enjoy sparring with) than he asks of anyone else here. On many a post he has requested numbers as proof of a statement, I am simply asking the same.
Dusty Dusty: It is a breath of fresh air hearing from Vacuum Cleaner Dealers with integrity. Some time ago Carmine suggested HSN had conspired (with Dyson) some how/some way when they claimed to of sold 10,000 DC07 units as a Today’s Special. The vac was a great bundle and price and people bought. Let’s see... to date, Carmine believes HSN, Walmart, Best Buy, Target and Sears are all conspiring to “pump to dump” Dyson’s. - It makes for great entertainment. DIB
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #98 Apr 10, 2009 3:22 pm |
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Exactly. 6500 RPM doesn't mean anything except how much dirt is whisked off of the surface (think high-speed carpet sweeper or power nozzle). In fact I would be under the impression that higher brushroll RPMs would actually mean *less* deep cleaning ability, since it would be spinning too fast to dig deep into the carpet. Perhaps that's where their claim of "floats on the carpet" came from. And unless the brushroll was flat, a la Dyson or Vibra-Groomer I, it wouldn't create any airflow on its own.
Speaking of which, one can remove the fan on a VGI-equipped Sanitaire, replace the pulley and reconnect the belt, and it will still have more airflow than an Oreck.
-MH Motorhead, I have been told this flat (ribbon roll?) increases airflow and/or suction. Q: Do you know by how much (a percentage)? Have you any info on the so-called Windtunnel Technologies. This looks to be Hoovers biggest exclusive only to them marketable patent. Q: Does it work and by how much? Only an observation... brushroll's spinning to fast to go deep reminds me of snowmobiles that can stay on the surface (float) and cross a body of water when driven at high rate of speed. Thanks, DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #99 Apr 11, 2009 7:30 am |
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Dusty, et al. Let me get to your questions and comments about best and popular sellers among retailers. As Severus pointed out big box retailers are reporting the worst sales of consumer goods [like vacuums] in over 40 years. You know that Circuit City stores are in bankruptcy and Linens-n-things in liquidation. Other retailers are sure to follow. This doesn't take into effect that many retailers, BEST BUY stores included, have added more product that is less expensive pricewise and culled more expensive goods from shelves as consumers traded down in price/budget of their buys. Now to your question. All retailers sort their brands and models by the selling price. For vacuums, dyson has few to no others than its own brand that compete with it in the same price range. So, for example, a DC25 Ball for $499 plus has no other brand competition. If it sells one a week, month etc, it is by definition a "best and popular seller.' Carmine D. |
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #101 Apr 11, 2009 7:35 am |
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Hi Severus,
Even if it was 50 dollars labor it would still be a $90 total repair. When people are buying Dirt Devils and Bissells at $200 a pop every two or three years, I don't see much of an issue with replacing a clutch after 5. I know I certainly don't sell any brands that require no repairs after 5 years...doesn't matter if it's Riccar, Eureka, Sebo or whatever. They all require something at some point.
Dusty
A $90 plus repair is a hardsell for a couple with one or more breadwinners laidoff/unemployed. These repairs often go unclaimed/undone. And consumers in hard times trade down on a new vacuum purchase RATHER THAN REPAIR because is less expensive/disposable. Vice trade up and trade in the old model and buying new at the same/higher price.
Carmine D.
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #102 Apr 11, 2009 7:39 am |
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Dusty:
It is a breath of fresh air hearing from Vacuum Cleaner Dealers with integrity.
Some time ago Carmine suggested HSN had conspired (with Dyson) some how/some way when they claimed to of sold 10,000 DC07 units as a Today’s Special. The vac was a great bundle and price and people bought. Let’s see... to date, Carmine believes HSN, Walmart, Best Buy, Target and Sears are all conspiring to “pump to dump” Dyson’s. - It makes for great entertainment.
DIB
Actually what I said is that these TV sales use the same selling/marketing strategy that hawkers used in the old days in auction sales. Plant shills who bid up the prices/product demand to give potential buyers a sense that they have to have/buy. Does the name Bernie Madeoff come to mind! The sales deception works better in good times than bad [like now].
Carmine D.
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #104 Apr 11, 2009 7:45 am |
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Maybe Carmine adds nitrogen to the brush bar and the bag on his Oreck. It is a maircle working gas. Speaking of gas. Carmine spews a lot of it.
HS:
I hear tell that nitrogen is infused in golf clubs/handles too now to assist players who otherwise can't make par do so! Carmine D.
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