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DysonInventsBig


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The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Original Message   Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm
It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.
This message was modified Jun 24, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #64   Apr 9, 2009 12:15 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

You never let me down...  can you document these "threats of legal action" and "suits by vacuum customers"?

DIB

DIB:

All you have to do is read some of the customer reviews for these dyson models.  It's all there.  Just have to look and read.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #65   Apr 9, 2009 12:18 pm
HARDSELL wrote:

  I perfer deep cleaning as opposed to surface cleaning.


Me too.  ORECK documents its direct suction air flow and revolving speed of the brush roll [based on scientific measurements] of 102 MPH and 6500 RPM.  Plus, one of the largest paper bag capacities in the industry.  What's your fave brand's speeds?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #66   Apr 9, 2009 12:23 pm
DIB:

You here yourself posted that dyson's clutch chatter [euphemism for gawdawful screeching noises] was a major reason for dyson returns.  You don't remember?  That and the fact that DC07 and DC14 models always fared poorly in Consumer Reports.  You said that too here.  So, tell me the reasons, other than these, for dyson scrubbing DC07/14 and the clutches.   

Carmine D.

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dusty


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #67   Apr 9, 2009 12:30 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Glad you asked Dusty.  First, TARGET and BEST BUY stores have/had the DC16 giveaway just with the DC25 ball model, so you are not completely correct.  This tells me dyson DC25 Ball is not selling at those retailers and the giveaway is a way to jump start sales. 

So you are only assuming that DC25's aren't selling because they have a free vac with the purchase. Shall we also assume that any item with something free attached to it also isn't selling? Can you show me somewhere that actually says that the DC25 is a bust?  I know you like numbers...me too.  I see the DC25 on many stores best selling lists (bestbuy, walmart).  My challenge to you would be to show me somewhere that shows it's gathering dust and not moving.  I've looked...I can't find anything.  I can only go by what I see and what I sell.  What can you show me?

Dusty
DysonInventsBig


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #68   Apr 9, 2009 12:43 pm
CarmineD wrote:
In fact, many retailers, after threats of legal action and suits by vacuum customers, have taken dysons back long after 30-60-90 days.  The reason in part, retailers are culling their dyson inventories in these bad times.  And so many dyson refurbs for sale.  And probably the reason in part the Dc07 and Dc14 are being scrubbed by dyson.  To many returns due to faulty clutch chatter.  Drives people and pets crazy.  Like scratching your nails over the chalk board.  Or a rake over the concrete.  Just gets under your skin.

Carmine D.


CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

All you have to do is read some of the customer reviews for these dyson models.  It's all there.  Just have to look and read.

Carmine D.


Yeah, where?  They’re your statements not mine.  So produce...

Can you demonstrate 10 such - "threats of legal action" and "suits by vacuum customers"?  Since Google has claimed 1 trillion pages indexed, surely 5 minutes researching will aid in the “bellying up” with a negligible 10 complaints out of 20 million Dyson’s sold.

Thanks in advance.

DIB


mole


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #69   Apr 9, 2009 12:47 pm
dusty wrote:
So you are only assuming that DC25's aren't selling because they have a free vac with the purchase. Shall we also assume that any item with something free attached to it also isn't selling? Can you show me somewhere that actually says that the DC25 is a bust?  I know you like numbers...me too.  I see the DC25 on many stores best selling lists (bestbuy, walmart).  My challenge to you would be to show me somewhere that shows it's gathering dust and not moving.  I've looked...I can't find anything.  I can only go by what I see and what I sell.  What can you show me?

Dusty

Not to highjack this thread but  the internet and ebay are killing the dyson dealers and box stores, Can you justify the 2 to 3 hundred dollar price difference between the legit dealers and the bootleggers on line?Dont give me the B.S. story about yours are first run machines and come with the factory warranty intact.

That story is getting real OLD,

I would say DYSON better start looking at $150.00 and under market,after all thats all any of their JUNK is really worth>>>>>>>>

regards

MOLE

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #70   Apr 9, 2009 12:53 pm
dusty wrote:
So you are only assuming that DC25's aren't selling because they have a free vac with the purchase. Shall we also assume that any item with something free attached to it also isn't selling? Can you show me somewhere that actually says that the DC25 is a bust?  I know you like numbers...me too.  I see the DC25 on many stores best selling lists (bestbuy, walmart).  My challenge to you would be to show me somewhere that shows it's gathering dust and not moving.  I've looked...I can't find anything.  I can only go by what I see and what I sell.  What can you show me?

Dusty



Dusty:

Like the DC15 ball, which is a bust for sales, so is the DC24 and DC25.  Recall dyson dropped its price in the USA by $100 just a few months into its launch.  Sure retailers put the ball models at the top of their lists.  What exactly does that mean?  Explain it for me.  Do you really expect retailers to publicly say that the dyson ball models are THE WORSE SELLING DYSON MODELS THEY EVER CARRIED SAVE THE DC11?  If they were honest, perhaps.  But you know that retailers can't be honest and expect customers to buy new dysons, especially the ball models.  

I'm happy for you that the DC25 is good seller for you.  You are in a silent tiny minority of dyson ball fans.  I suspect for a limited number of vacuum buyers, if not given other options, the DC25 ball model is a likely seller.   DC24 ball is a terrible terrible vacuum.  Not worth the price [$399] w/wo the ball technology.   ORECK runs rings around it and over it.  DC24 gets the worse dyson ratings and rankings from Consumer Reports ever.   Let's see what happens when the DC25 comes up to bat.  If sales are lackluster now, after a CR rating/rank, if bad, they'll be dead in water.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #71   Apr 9, 2009 12:57 pm
DIB:

If they are sooooooooooooooo good, tell me why the DC07/14 and the clutches are kaput!

Carmine D.

Venson


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #72   Apr 9, 2009 1:00 pm
mole wrote:
Not to highjack this thread but  the internet and ebay are killing the dyson dealers and box stores, Can you justify the 2 to 3 hundred dollar price difference between the legit dealers and the bootleggers on line?Dont give me the B.S. story about yours are first run machines and come with the factory warranty intact.

That story is getting real OLD,

DYSON better start looking at $150.00 and under market, after all thats all any of their JUNK is really worth

regards

MOLE


Hiya MOLE,

I won't cast aspersions on the Dyson name but it and many other high-cost brands can definitely be found on eBay. Whatever the worth, people are not looking to get skinned in the attempt to have something decent.

Most of these are the genuine article -- meaning legally acquired -- and sold by reputable eBay vendors whose feedback can be easily checked in regard to customer satisfaction. That's good enough for me. If anything is in question, it's why I can't simply walk down the block and find the same priced as reasonably.

Venson
CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #73   Apr 9, 2009 1:03 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Yeah, where?  They’re your statements not mine.  So produce...

DIB


DIB:  You made those statements here in writing about the clutch chatter/mediocre CR DC07 and DC14 ranks.  I don't have to produce evidence to change your mind.  Believe what you want to believe in your mind.  Doesn't change the facts.  DC07 and DC14 are finito.  Gone.  Sayonara on the tin guitar.  Dyson clutches on US models are gone with the wind.   You can believe these dyson models are the best on the planet in dyson's reportoire.  Butt even James himself would disagree with you.  Unless of course he pulled them and discontinued clutch usage because they are soooooooooooooo good. 

Carmine D.

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