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DysonInventsBig


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The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Original Message   Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm
It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.
This message was modified Jun 24, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #159   Aug 3, 2009 12:52 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
If you knew anything about electronics you would know that WM sells the low end of brand names and BB sells low to high end of those brands.

As for audio they offer low end HTIB systems and the very low end of only one brand of receiver.  No stand alone amps or speakers worthy of mention.

A lot of shoppers THINK Bose is high end.  That should tell you how savy they are.  OTH you likely think they are high end also. 



HS:

You have a gripe with W*M because it dumped your fave brand.  That simple.  You praise BB because it came to James' rescue when he needed an oulet to dump all the DC07's that he took back from W*M.  W*M out sells BB every year.  BB is not even a close second.  That's the reason James grovelled to W*M to get dyson back in.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #160   Aug 3, 2009 1:10 pm
HS:

In case you missed the news, here it is again.

Here's the rankings by retailer and PROFIT for 2008:

  1. Wal*Mart                    $405.6 B
  2. Kroger                         $76B
  3. COSTCO                    $72.5B
  4. Home Depot              $71.3B
  5. TARGET                       $64.9B
  6. Walgreen's                 $59B
  7. CVS CAremark          $49B
  8. Lowes                          $48.2B
  9. SEARS HOLDING     $46.8B
  10. BEST BUY                    $45B

It takes 9 years of business profits by BB to equal one year of W*M.  No wonder James grovelled to W*M to get in.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #161   Aug 3, 2009 5:42 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Can you be specific?

DIB


sure DIB....i see those cyclones  and all the little chambers as places or bins for dust to build as it always has when taken totally apart.not just on dyson but on all bagless......no matter who makes it. nasty bin to empty ... buildup over time starts to stink..and does get by the filters , suction goes down...way down.
..yes its supposed to get blown away once you use it again...but it doesnt...and this is evident in the very dark nasty colored  water when you soak them to loosen up the build up..for a flush out.    although im a fan of the floating head [ riccar-panasonic ] a height ajustment with a little  weight  at the b-roll cover is better...and far cheaper than a clutch system.  the ball is a waste...an added expense..wheels do fine. just alot of stuff to complicate the simple.

so maybe im simple minded....but  all that dyson does can be done by many at a far more affordable price. yes im partial to a bag vacuum. ..will never see a bagless as an asset..dont care who makes it ... no need for all the bells and whistles....its a vacuum.  just means more to go wrong...more money to fix. on-off switch....thats it.   you asked so i answered....my take on it...and some customers points of view that i agree with. im not speaking for the masses...but an honest opinion...point of view.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #162   Aug 3, 2009 6:40 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
sure DIB....i see those cyclones  and all the little chambers as places or bins for dust to build as it always has when taken totally apart.not just on dyson but on all bagless......no matter who makes it. nasty bin to empty ... buildup over time starts to stink..and does get by the filters , suction goes down...way down.
..yes its supposed to get blown away once you use it again...but it doesnt...and this is evident in the very dark nasty colored  water when you soak them to loosen up the build up..for a flush out.    although im a fan of the floating head [ riccar-panasonic ] a height ajustment with a little  weight  at the b-roll cover is better...and far cheaper than a clutch system.  the ball is a waste...an added expense..wheels do fine. just alot of stuff to complicate the simple.

so maybe im simple minded....but  all that dyson does can be done by many at a far more affordable price. yes im partial to a bag vacuum. ..will never see a bagless as an asset..dont care who makes it ... no need for all the bells and whistles....its a vacuum.  just means more to go wrong...more money to fix. on-off switch....thats it.   you asked so i answered....my take on it...and some customers points of view that i agree with. im not speaking for the masses...but an honest opinion...point of view.


Hello 'turtle1'

DIB doesn't understand honesty and integrity.  Those words are not part of his vocabulary.  DIB and the fave company tell lies that they can't and won't back up with proof.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #163   Aug 3, 2009 10:34 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

You have a gripe with W*M because it dumped your fave brand.  That simple.  You praise BB because it came to James' rescue when he needed an oulet to dump all the DC07's that he took back from W*M.  W*M out sells BB every year.  BB is not even a close second.  That's the reason James grovelled to W*M to get dyson back in.

Carmine D.



You made the comment about electronics, not me.  I simply responded.  What the hell does that have to do with Dyson at WM or BB? 

Anyone with intelligence knows that WM and BB should not be compared in total revenues.  Totallly different markets.  BB sells better quality electronics than WM.  Plain and simple.  You should be more diverse with your knowledge. 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #164   Aug 4, 2009 6:48 am
Dyson is not a mainstream seller HS, as you and others say.  That's the point.  If it were it, and its not, it would be selling at the big box retailers like W*M and BEST BUY.  Dysons are not selling enough to warrant in store shelf space.  Ask your retailers' staff if you know them well enough to be honest with you.  Like K-Mart, dyson will in short order if he doesn't reinvent his company and products and lower their prices, be relegated to on-line sales, just like the re-formatted dyson ball barrow.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #165   Aug 4, 2009 7:05 am
BTW HS, tell Stores Magazine, a retail industry authority, that BEST BUY and W*M stores should not be compared.  They do it every year and are the retail industry standard for it.  I was referencing and quoting their findings and results for 2008.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #166   Aug 4, 2009 7:06 am
In fact HS, BEST BUY Stores and W*M are competitors for electronics sales and vie for the lead position every year in sales.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Aug 4, 2009 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #167   Aug 4, 2009 8:16 am
CarmineD wrote:
In fact HS, BEST BUY Stores and W*M are competitors for electronics sales and vie for the lead position every year in sales.

Carmine D.



Which store do you buy your mid to higher end televisions and home theater audio equipment from?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #168   Aug 4, 2009 8:55 am
Let me say this for you  v-e-r-y  s-l-o-w-l-y  so you understand.  I shop and buy at the store/retailer/business which has what it is I'm looking for and at the best price AND the best customer satisfaction in the past.  As I said, I am not a big fan of W*M stores but I respect and admire its business acuman. 

In the past year I've purchased vacuums and electronics at BEST BUY stores and COSTCO stores.  The last purchase I made from W*M was the same as the purchase I made before it:  bulbs for my house light fixtures.  W*M carries the style and brand I need.  Not a huge sale, less than 10 bucks.  If you like I'll itemize all the purchases for you.

Which BTW has nothing to do with the expensive clutch repairs which are problematic on dysons that run $100-$135 top repair and generally are the root cause for them being traded, junked, and left unclaimed.  Opps there goes another recycled/refurbed dyson.

Carmine D.

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