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DysonInventsBig


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The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Original Message   Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm
It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.
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CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #133   Aug 1, 2009 6:45 am
Dyson's DC27, a Sams' Club exclusive, now has 5 reviews [wow].  Been on the market since October 2008, or 10 months.  It gets just a tad more than 4 stars, typical for dysons.  About 80 percent positive.  $479 for the Total Clean. 

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=418376#reviews

Carmine D.

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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #134   Aug 1, 2009 7:26 am
CarmineD wrote:
Dyson's DC27, a Sams' Club exclusive, now has 5 reviews [wow].  Been on the market since October 2008, or 10 months.  It gets just a tad more than 4 stars, typical for dysons.  About 80 percent positive.  $479 for the Total Clean. 

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=418376#reviews

Carmine D.



Hoover Fusion has been on the market at least 3 years and gets 8 reviews. It fell short of the "tad over the 4th star".  .

Fusion has 5 perfect stars = 67%.  Dyson had 4 perfect stars=80%.

If memory serves me correctly you tauted the Fusion at Sams as being the Dyson killer.  Wow 8 reviews for this slayer!!!!!!!!!!

Other Hoovers get 1 star of no review.  Your criterion shows that these are either pith poor or not selling.  Hard to believe huh?

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #135   Aug 1, 2009 7:31 am
Right HS:  HOOVER Fusion $100 dyson $500.  Good comparison!  If you insist on irrelevant comparisons try the HOOVER TEMPO for $80 for its stars/reviews.  Almost 1000 with 4.5 stars. 

Here's an excerpt my good dyson friend.  A meaningful review and analysis. I've owned several and still do. 

Carmine D.

"The Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 gets the most support from more than 1,000 owners who have posted reviews at Amazon.com. It's also included in Consumer Reports magazine's more scientific roundup of vacuum cleaners. We found a few interesting posts on Epinions.com and some video reviews at ExpoTV.com.

Overall, owners of the Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 upright vacuum are very happy with their purchase. They cite the vac's low weight (only 16 pounds) compared to others, which makes it easier to push and to carry up and down stairs. Owners are also pleased with the included allergen filter. 

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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #136   Aug 1, 2009 9:59 am
CarmineD wrote:
Right HS:  HOOVER Fusion $100 dyson $500.  Good comparison!  If you insist on irrelevant comparisons try the HOOVER TEMPO for $80 for its stars/reviews.  Almost 1000 with 4.5 stars. 

Here's an excerpt my good dyson friend.  A meaningful review and analysis. I've owned several and still do. 

Carmine D.

"The Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 gets the most support from more than 1,000 owners who have posted reviews at Amazon.com. It's also included in Consumer Reports magazine's more scientific roundup of vacuum cleaners. We found a few interesting posts on Epinions.com and some video reviews at ExpoTV.com.

Overall, owners of the Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 upright vacuum are very happy with their purchase. They cite the vac's low weight (only 16 pounds) compared to others, which makes it easier to push and to carry up and down stairs. Owners are also pleased with the included allergen filter. 



Remember Carmine.  When Fusion came on the market you predicted that it would be the end of Dyson.  WM and Sam's alone would sell so these and Dyson would sink.  3 years later and Both sell Dyson. Did I mention that in 3 years the Fusion gets 8 reviews.  What a seller.  Now the Whisper is trying the same thing as Fusion.  No listing on Sam's for the Whisper.  If you do not want Dyson compared to you cheapos why do you constantly bring them up and then squak about ythe price difference.  In fact you predicted that the $119 Fusion would unseat Dyson.  Since it didn't you blame cost.  LOL.  What next?

The Tempo scores no better than Dyson on Amazon.  In fact Dyson has a fraction better score.  It seems that most Tempo users were wanting a cheap vac and are satisfied for the performance AT THE COST.  Most Tempo owners woukl be happy with any vac in their double wides.

It also looks like Tempo and Dyson scores superior to the Orecks on Amazon.  And to think those Orecks reach $800 or 5 times the cost of Tempo.

They are coming to take you away haha, haha.

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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #137   Aug 1, 2009 1:30 pm
The Hoover has lot's of reviews on HSN... 3.4 out of 5 stars

Fusion
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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #138   Aug 1, 2009 1:42 pm
Hi Ace:

3.4 stars is not too shabby for $100 bagless vacuum.  This was, no longer made, a TTI sourced vacuum at the time, with the HOOVER brand.  A precursor to the fact that TTI woul eventually make a bid for HOOVER when part of the Whirlpool tutelage.

HS:

You and your dyson brethren can't get over the fact that in 2005 the HOOVER Fusion KO'ed dyson in all the Wal*Mart stores and kept dysons out for 2 years, until James came groveling back.  A $100 contender whupped a $500 supposed champ!  Cream of the crap.

Carmine D.

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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #139   Aug 1, 2009 1:56 pm
Carmine, something good much be happening with Dyson... They now aren't just letting anyone sell there vacuum's like they did before... Even I was turned down after I took a couple of year off selling them and I sold a few "600" just through my website...
CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #140   Aug 1, 2009 4:39 pm
Acerone wrote:
Carmine, something good much be happening with Dyson... They now aren't just letting anyone sell there vacuum's like they did before... Even I was turned down after I took a couple of year off selling them and I sold a few "600" just through my website...


Hello Ace:

You are and have always been a big supporter of all things dyson and one of the first to sell them here in the USA.  If you are preempted from selling dyson now because you took a sabbatical from sales for awhile, I can't/don't see that as something good for dyson.

Carmine D.

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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #141   Aug 1, 2009 5:19 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Ace:

3.4 stars is not too shabby for $100 bagless vacuum.  This was, no longer made, a TTI sourced vacuum at the time, with the HOOVER brand.  A precursor to the fact that TTI woul eventually make a bid for HOOVER when part of the Whirlpool tutelage.

3.4 is not as good as the $ Tempo which is 20 to 39% cheaper.  Even your beloved CR did not give the Fusion a good rating. Good or bad for the price that does not make it better than the Dyson at 4 + stars regardless of where they are rated.  You are beginning to wobble with pith poor excuses for failure to be the best.

HS:

You and your dyson brethren can't get over the fact that in 2005 the HOOVER Fusion KO'ed dyson in all the Wal*Mart stores and kept dysons out for 2 years, until James came groveling back.  A $100 contender whupped a $500 supposed champ!  Cream of the crap.

We all know that Dyson was pulled due to pricing disagreements with WM.  I have an entirely different view. The only reason that Fusion stayed was because Dyson was not in the store to take their sales.  Let's recap.  Although Dyson outscores Fusion you use the excuse that the Fusion costs less. Then you come back to say that the $100 vac beat out the $500 vac. Didn't happen except in your feeble mind.  Dyson forced Hoover to sell out without help form WM.

Damn, Dyson beat the sheet out of both them.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Reply #142   Aug 1, 2009 7:02 pm
HS:

The only thing dyson beat was the money out of the people who bought dysons.  Like flushing $500 down the toilet. 

Interesting the pricing disagreement that got dyson kicked out of W*M for 2 years.  In 2003, W*M had an exclusive dyson called the All Carpets with an MSRP for $359.  [No clutch].  On sale W*M typically sold for $309-$319.  When the exclusive contract expired, W*M starting selling the DC07 All Floors with an MSRP of $379.  Not selling in 2004/5, W*M lowered the price to the $319 [the selling price of the All Carpet].  James and dyson had a hissy fit and cried like a baby.  W*M having already contracted with HOOVER for a 2 year deal with HOOVER Fusion in the Spring of 2005 told Sir James to take all the unsold DC07's back with REFUNDS to W*M.  James did.  A boat load.  James dumped them on BEST BUY stores.  BB took over 4 years to get rid of them.  In 2007, James grovelled to W*M and begged W*M to take dysons back in.  Had to pull some management strings to get the deal done.  No exclusives tho since with W*M.  In fall 2008, the smaller Sam's Club, took on the DC27 as an exclusive discussed in this thread.  They are selling like Jim Beam bourbon to Mormons at the Temple in Salt Lake City.  5 reviews in almost 10 months.  Wow.  HOOVER Fusion was one of W*M's most popular vacuum sellers of all times.  Even the dyson insider/rep who used to post here, Matt mmc/Airblade, fessed up to that fact on several occasions here.  

Carmine D. 

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