Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.

HARDSELL wrote:

Facts are oftentimes difficult to understand and accept the first time around!    There is a true saying that you can't see the forest from the trees.   BTW, both are excellent sources of nitrogen [forest and trees].

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

 Dusty, DIB:

I explained based on fact to you that 'best and popular' seller is meaningless unless it is accompanied by more pertinent information.  A $499 plus dyson DC25 and/or $600 plus DC23 are lone vacuum models in their class by the big box retailers.  No other brands/models are sold in the big box retail store venues, save dyson, at those exorbitant prices.  One single solitary model sale per week, per month, per quarter [DC27 as Sam's Club] are dubbed 'best and popular' top seller for big box retailers.  Looks impressive to potential buyers.  Like the HSN sales number scams.  These are mere words and ploys to build a false perception of pent up demand.  Why?  To pump up the appearance of sales.  All meaningless dribble.   Good marketing and advertising strategies.  Has nothing to do with actual sales numbers.  That's the facts.

Carmine D.

The salespersons on HSN are very good - they could sell ice to Eskimos.  However, I believe Home Shopping also has a very generous return policy.   While it's impressive to sell a large number of vacuums in one day, one doesn't know how many of those vacuums are returned after the purchaser has time to reconsider the impulse buy. 

Certainly Dyson has had some success in selling $400 vacuums.  I'd be curious to know how the high end Electrolux vacuums are selling at Lowe's.   With Dyson's initial success in selling $400+ uprights, others are competing in that price range.   I was amazed to see Hoover's being offered at the $400 price point in Walmart.   I can't see consumers getting too excited about 9-inch wide power nozzles or cutesy steering mechanisms. 

Perhaps we see Miele $500-$600 upright vacuums at Best Buy or some other big box store in the near future. 

CarmineD wrote:

 Dusty, DIB:

I explained based on fact to you that 'best and popular' seller is meaningless unless it is accompanied by more pertinent information.  A $499 plus dyson DC25 and/or $600 plus DC23 are lone vacuum models in their class by the big box retailers.  No other brands/models are sold in the big box retail store venues, save dyson, at those exorbitant prices.  One single solitary model sale per week, per month, per quarter [DC27 as Sam's Club] are dubbed 'best and popular' top seller for big box retailers.  Looks impressive to potential buyers.  Like the HSN sales number scams.  These are mere words and ploys to build a false perception of pent up demand.  Why?  To pump up the appearance of sales.  All meaningless dribble.   Good marketing and advertising strategies.  Has nothing to do with actual sales numbers.  That's the facts.

Carmine D.

Good luck with the new bad-mouthing Dyson strategy...  That is - telling consumers to not trust what HSN, Walmart, Best Buy, Sears and/or Target says of Dyson sales, but instead trust the independent-troll who’s livelihood depends on bad-mouthing the [Dyson] competition.  That’s some funny stuff.

DIB

Hello Severus:

For the year ended Dec 31, 2008 HSN reported a financial loss of $2.4 BILLION dollars.  [Like most retailers, HSN is experiencing the worse economic times in its history].  HSN stock price is trading at $5 plus per share from a 52 week high [which is also depressed based on HSN historical stock price] of $16.

Carmine D.

At least one major retailer COSTCO, recently rated the best of all retailers by Consumer Reports, has the DC17 Total Clean for $399.

CarmineD wrote:
Thanks again Carmine -- They're throwing in three optional accessories too I noticed. There were three reviews posted on the Costco site and high scores were given by all.

Venson

Venson:

The DC17 to date is the best rated dyson upright consistently by Consumer Reports.  For the $399 price, w/o the gawdawful clutch in the defunct DC07 and DC14, the DC17 with the extras from COSTCO is the dyson upright to buy if one is so inclined. 

Carmine D.

The DC27 at SAM's Club Stores still shows just 2 product reviews, very good by the way, from Dec 2008 and April 2009.  While not the most pervasive of retailers, I would have expected more reviews by now based on past new dyson product launchs.  Especially among the dyson faithful.  Perhaps, the price [$469] is too steep for most, even the dyson faithful, in the current economic down turn.

I expect these new dyson models will make their way soon into other retailers and the prices will come down. 

Carmine D.

A couple of more reviews have been added to the Sam's Club DC27 profile. 

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=418376&pCatg=7247#reviews

Carmine D.