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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the [on some carpet types] temperamental clutch.
Original Message   Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm
It's true, no more clutch.  It uses a brushroll motor.
This message was modified Jun 24, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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bucks03


Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 76

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #10   Mar 13, 2009 7:17 pm
Well I'm in UK and have had a slight problem with clutch on a DC03 and DC04.  On the DC03, the knob wouldn't stay in the 'OFF' position so when using the knob would flip itself to the 'On' position all by itself.  Dyson replaced this and it appeared to be a problem with a few DC03's at the time having a 'loose' control knob.  The replacment on the DC03 would make the awful ratchet noise sometimes when reclining the machine for use, it would do it and then operate as normal for no apparant reason - Dyson say that the clutch wasn't 'set' properly in the factory was was too sensitive.  They changed it and it was ok.

The DC04 I bought had a noisy clutch that just wasn't neccessary,  I wasn't happy with it.  Dyson changed the clutch and it has been the same clutch now for 7 years without a problem!!   The only thing is that after a while the smooth belts loose tension so it doesn't make a ratchet noise when obstructed,  I have to makie sure I move the cleaner away from the obstruction quickly - this hardly happens.   So 7 years with the same clutch is very good.

I like the clutch system and don't see a problem with it as its not an extra motor to go wrong (not saying that it will though)  I just don't understand why Dyson didn't design it from the start with tooth belts and why they used smooth belts, I will never understand that.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #11   Mar 13, 2009 11:51 pm
DC18 wrote:
Comsidering the DC15, DC18, DC24 and DC25 (yes they all use the ball technology) does not use the clutch setup why the UK version of the DC27 can not have the same setup!   The DC27 UK version is an evolved DC14 looking at the ptictures so far.  Improved Wand, Bin and cyclone setup and possible new brushroll setup!  No sign of it as yet!

1)  One issue I here from people time and time again which has not been address is the design of the main floor nozzle\head.  Due to this design it can stop you from getting into certain area's to clean like against the plint in the kitchens 2)  under the lower cupboards etc... (hence why the Dyson Ball vacs are better at this!), the DC03 addressed this issue!

DC18

 
1)  Interesting. 
2)  Over here some call this the "toe kick".        DIB


Model2


~ It Beats...as it Sweeps...as it Cleans ~

Location: England
Joined: Jan 8, 2009
Points: 155

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #12   Mar 14, 2009 12:13 am
Just wrote:
I can't say it so much that "We Americans" have problems with the clutch, as the clutch has problems with American carpets.   The carpets are too thick and the machine's clutch would slip and ratchet.  Carmine has told the stories many times of his poor dog running for cover.

My question would be, why does it need a clutch in the first place?  



Over the past century, we've gone from wooden floors with area rugs, to wall-to-wall carpeting, to a 50/50 split of wood and laminate...the clutch, by allowing users to shut off the brushroll, allows you to clean both, without requiring 2 separate cleaners.

~ However Clean - Hoover Cleaner ~
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #13   Mar 14, 2009 7:44 am
Here in the USA, we are little backward.  We use a brush roll shut off rather than a $135 clutch.

Carmine D.

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #14   Mar 15, 2009 9:52 am
Just wrote:
I can't say it so much that "We Americans" have problems with the clutch, as the clutch has problems with American carpets.   The carpets are too thick and the machine's clutch would slip and ratchet.  Carmine has told the stories many times of his poor dog running for cover.

My question would be, why does it need a clutch in the first place?  


In 1978 electrolux introduced the 1531 beast upright, the machine was given an  unlimited amount of money for R@D the machine had a clutch in it,The machine had a production run for only 2 years.It was deemed a disaster and absolute failure.

Just by thinking that if you throw money and time at  something its going to be innovative and sucessful in the market place is wishfull thinking.

The only thing innovative in vacuum land in something people can use.

regards

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #15   Mar 15, 2009 2:09 pm
mole wrote:

The only thing innovative in vacuum land in something people can use.

regards

MOLE



Well said, MOLE.  Does a hokey on a stick qualify?  Lot in use and the customers love them and use them daily.

Carmine D.

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #16   Mar 15, 2009 4:38 pm
Hi Carmine, as long as the consumer likes the motorized hoky thats all that matters,orecks are simple ,lite, clean good enough for %99.7 of the  owners,parts and repairs can be found  without making a road trip out of it,  Oreck has so many different price points from factory recons to the ultra, Its really  nice to see that oreck is surviving in this economic climate.

I will venture to say that ORECK has prospered because Dave and his family are real vacuum people,who have a passion for this business,sort of like Kirby,aerus/electrolux.

I would say that the TTI management dont even know how to use a vacuum cleaner,nevermind make one.

regards

MOLE

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #17   Mar 16, 2009 7:49 am
Hi MOLE:

ORECK is to the TTI Floorcare as old vacuum school is to new vacuum school.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Mar 16, 2009 by CarmineD
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #18   Mar 16, 2009 1:18 pm
It not quite goodbye clutch just yet, well for the UK that is!  I called the UK DYson Helpline to get some info on the DC27.  There is no official launch date as yet, I was told later this year may be around June\July.  It 's an adaptation\evolved\updated version of the DC14 from customer feedback they had on the DC14.  Same as the DC14 was to the DC07!  I was told the vacuum still has the clutch (UK) and the filters are to be washed every 3 months like the DC24\DC25.  The only change is that of the U bend that connects the hose on the change over value as some customers found this got blocked with debris.  They have changed this and it is clear so you can see if it is blocked and there is a flap to open to remove the blockage instead of having to remove the U bend (The DC01 had this setup!).

DC18

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110

Re: The DC27 - to replace the DC07 & DC14. Say good-bye to the clutch.
Reply #19   Apr 1, 2009 8:49 am


Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture? Look closely. It has a clutch knob and a the motorized brush on/off button next to the red power button. Photoshop mishap perhaps?
This message was modified Apr 1, 2009 by iMacDaddy
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