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DysonInventsBig


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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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Model2


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Location: England
Joined: Jan 8, 2009
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #18   Mar 8, 2009 12:29 pm
Venson wrote:
By the way, how does the UK's Dyson 23 fit into the picture?

http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC23-MOTORHEAD

Thanks,

Venson



It's very similar to the DC21 Motorhead, but about £50 cheaper, and better designed. It also has the Core Separator, which the DC21 doesn't. However, the DC21 is still the premium-priced product. I don't really understand why! Dyson pricing can be confusing; for instance, in electrical, electronic and white-goods store Currys, they're selling the last of the remaining DC15 Animals for £390, but offering the DC25 Animal - similar product but better in every way - for £299! Go figure....

I think Dyson are falling into the trap Hoover did in the 1970s of making their line-ups way too complicated. Britain doesn't need 2 Motorhead models, especially as powernozzle canisters have never, never been big sellers in the UK.

(As I wrote this, I glanced out the window to see our next-door neighbour cleaning her car with a DC20 Allergy!)

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M00seUK


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #19   Mar 8, 2009 12:44 pm

Interesting developments. At long last Dyson introduce a visual change filter indicator. In theory this means the user can completely forget about the filter and the vac will give constant performance for many years until it finally demands attention. This overcomes what must surely be their no1 support problem – people blissfully unaware that the filter requires semi-regular, manual checking. Anyone know if the DC22 in Japan had this visual light feature – I don’t think it’s been mentioned until now.

The DDM is extremely powerful, but is it any less noisy? Previously on the DDM models in Japan they’ve had to add adjustable power settings for this reason. The ‘phone home’ feature from the original DDM DC12 is still missing from these cleaners? It looks that way.  

I wonder price these models will retail for? Dyson have previously resisted launching any DDM cleaners in the western markets, as the relative price was though to be prohibitive. Apparently, they were waiting until they could bring down the DDM component price to a level competitive with the carbon-based motors. People generally have less money than in years gone by, so hoping they’ve got their sums right. But either way, it’ll be wringing out more exposure for the Dyson publicity machine.

Maybe they’re hoping that the motorhead + DDM will ‘clean up’ in the CR canister tests?

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Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #20   Mar 8, 2009 1:05 pm
M00seUK wrote:
. . .At long last Dyson introduce a visual change filter indicator. In theory this means the user can completely forget about the filter and the vac will give constant performance for many years until it finally demands attention.

Hi M00seUK,

I'm not so sure about that. Following is a link to the DC22's user guide in PDF form.

http://www.dyson.co.uk/support/help.asp?article=32

Please note that this single manual is supplied online for both the UK's "Allergy (straight suction)" and "Animal (comes with power nozzle" versions of the DC22. Please also note that per this manual filter cleaning is recommended every month.

Best,

Venson
Model2


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #21   Mar 8, 2009 1:11 pm
Looks like it may do:

Don't forget, the Dyson Constant Max commercial upright had a filter-wash overdue indicator:

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Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #22   Mar 8, 2009 2:11 pm
Hi Model2,

By the way -- thanks for the mention of the Argos online catalog. I like tracking European product to aid in learning what's coming from where AND who. It's also great to get continuing enlightenment in regard to what manufacturers are offering and what buyers outside the U.S. appear to be going for.

There's a bunch of online vendors that I'm sure I don't have on my list. If you happen to think of some that you know of, please PM me when you a moment.

Best,

Venson
CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #23   Mar 8, 2009 5:19 pm
 

 This is the one used in most of the press photos of the DC22


A question for anyone who knows and is willing to share the answer here:  If I'm looking at the front of this P/N, which way does the revolving brush turn during normal operations:  Towards me and away from the user and the vacuum?  Or, away from me and toward the user and the vacuum?  Thanks in advance for the consideration/answer to my question. 

Carmine D.

Model2


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #24   Mar 8, 2009 5:38 pm
CarmineD wrote:
 


A question for anyone who knows and is willing to share the answer here:  If I'm looking at the front of this P/N, which way does the revolving brush turn during normal operations:  Towards me and away from the user and the vacuum?  Or, away from me and toward the user and the vacuum?  Thanks in advance for the consideration/answer to my question. 

Carmine D.



The rear of the brushroll turns upwards, away from the carpet, if that makes sense. Same as in a Hoover, for example. The only machines I'm aware of which used a brush-roll which revolved in the opposite direction were the Singer R-series, Premier Grand, General Electric Model 111 and the Apex Model 35/Vactric Airflo of the 1930s. The advantage this offered was that you could vacuum right to the very edge of an area rug, without it being pulled into the nozzle of the machine.

Forgive the rough illustration!

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Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #25   Mar 8, 2009 5:51 pm
With the brushroll turning back toward the user (counterclockwise if you look the brushroll turn from the side) it more easily flicks dirt and debris into the airstream. Its running in reverse would also effect ease of pushing.

Venson
DysonInventsBig


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #26   Mar 8, 2009 6:42 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Pretty impressed with collection bag technology are we?

DIB

CarmineD wrote:
Since you ask, yes I am.  The reason in part all the top tier vacuums [not over-priced] here and abroad use quality paper/cloth bags like allergen, HEPA, and 3M.  Are you? 

Carmine D.


Talking and thinking about old collection bag technologies (including the 10 yr. old 3M Filtrete), I find quite boring.

DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VTDA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #27   Mar 9, 2009 7:31 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Talking and thinking about old collection bag technologies (including the 10 yr. old 3M Filtrete), I find quite boring.

DIB


Really?  How illogical and inconsistent for you to say that after all your interest and inquiries into 100 old vacuum inventors and inventions. 

Carmine D.

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