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DysonInventsBig


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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #55   Mar 14, 2009 2:37 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
. . .  I also could not justify $700 for a german vac that has a hose that does not last 1 year.

Hi Hardsell,

I get your point but all the votes aren't in yet. My S7 is doing just great and I have had no problem with the hose as of yet. We won't know for at least another four to six months if this will prove a major point of complaint by consumers.

I would note, present economy in mind, I have no sense of assuredness as to the S7 moving on to be a big seller not because of quality issues but because it is expensive. Nonetheless, I have been a staunch canister lover for many years and this specific vacuum is about the only upright I consider a good alternative --at least for me.

Venson
CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #56   Mar 14, 2009 2:55 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I could justify the price of my DC07. 

That price was "free" and you sold the DC07 after 2 years to buy a Royal Eminence, justifiably.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #57   Mar 15, 2009 7:44 am
CarmineD wrote:
This year's VDTA so far has gotten no local TV coverage.  First time in recent years that this is the case.  Tho, forecasts say 4,000 attendeees are expected, I think they missed the mark by quite abit.  Several persons I know who in the past got tickets from their local employers to scope out the VDTA didn't this year.  No doubt a result of money and perk cutbacks, down sizing and the current economic hard times.

Carmine D.



Also as of now, no newsaper coverage.  Perhaps in today's paper?  After I peruse, I'll know.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #58   Mar 16, 2009 7:53 am
Nothing written, nothing aired, nothing discussed, nothing shared.  By all media measures the 2009 VDTA is a bust.  Perhaps ORECK, with 3 stores in Vegas and another planned, was prescient by passing it up this year.

Carmine D.

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #59   Mar 23, 2009 1:44 pm
The DC22 Turbinehead ($699) is now being sold by at least one indie store online. The Motorhead version ($799) will start shipping on April 6th.

More info:

• The DC22 Turbinehead will be an independent dealer exclusive.

• The DC22 Motorhead will be sold through mass retailers nationwide, as well as on the Dyson website beginning in April.

Power ratings

• DC21 - 220 air watts

• DC22 - 230 air watts

• DC23 - 220 air watts

This message was modified Mar 24, 2009 by iMacDaddy
Lucky1


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #60   Mar 24, 2009 12:21 pm
iMacDaddy wrote:
The DC22 Turbinehead will be an independent dealer exclusive.<BR><BR>•

Another useless Turbo for us to sell and make good on for disappointed customers.....WOW thanks for the bone!
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #61   Mar 24, 2009 2:33 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
Another useless Turbo for us to sell and make good on for disappointed customers.....WOW thanks for the bone!


Do you sell Dyson?
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #62   Mar 24, 2009 2:36 pm
MacDaddy wrote:
The DC22 Turbinehead will be an independent dealer exclusive.<BR><BR>•

Lucky1 wrote:
Another useless Turbo for us to sell and make good on for disappointed customers.....WOW thanks for the bone!

Are you a Dyson dealer?

It’s my understanding turbo nozzle vacuums sell well where hard surfaces make up the greater percentage of the home.

The DDM’s 80,000 rpm motor is very powerful and pulls lots of air... hence the 5-7 years until pre-filter cleaning.  Likewise, a Dyson turbo nozzle [vacuum] married with the DDM should prove "best in class" and/or eclipse all other [turbo] nozzles.

DIB
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Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #63   Mar 24, 2009 6:35 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
. . . It’s my understanding turbo nozzle vacuums sell well where hard surfaces make up the greater percentage of the home.

DIB

Hi DIB,

A powered nozzle of any kind is not necessary for large or small expanses of bare floor. A plain old bare floor tool does just nicely. Generally, air-turbine nozzles are great at making impressive noise but not much else. They are usually sold by demoing them with yours, mine and everyone's favorite substance -- kapok -- which really wows a crowd as it ever so easily whooshed up.

The usual air-driven turbine nozzle has a narrow air inlet in the brush chamber that leads directly to the turbine blades. The inlet is deliberately made narrow so that it intensifies the air stream that enters the turbine area to allow more force against the blades. The fly in the ointment here is that these devices require constant airflow to keep the brushroll running at a decent speed. To accomplish this vents are place in spots to allow air to enter the nozzle above floor level. (Without the vents they stall easily.) Yes the brushroll spins nicely but suction at floor level, where it's needed most, is sacrificed. Thus, "deep cleaning" is not possible.

The only turbine nozzles I've seen that might be of some worth are the rather large type used with central vac systems. Their turbines are large and act as flywheels whose inertial energy is used to enhance strength of motion. These of course are powered by central vacs which have much higher airflow and suction strength than a regular household vacuum.

Electric power nozzle only need one form of power to drive their brushrolls and suction delivery does not have to be double-tasked or compromised. This allows for far more effective brushroll designs and results in far better cleaning ability.

Venson
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #64   Mar 24, 2009 7:37 pm
Venson,

Thanks for the central vac info, etc.

Agreed, large hard surfaces are vacuumed by floor tools, and for some the turbo nozzle is a secondary tool.  And is a less expensive alternative to the Motorhead.

It is my understanding turbo nozzles are popular in humid climates here in the U.S. and popular in Europe, Japan, etc., although I do not have those numbers.  The turbo nozzle typically is a dog, we will have to wait and see how the DDM married to a turbo nozzle performs.  Yes suction is sacrificed and is typically not “the way to go”, but we are not talking of the antique any longer...  we are talking of the worlds only 5 to 7 years until pre-filter cleaning vacuum, powered by a digital motor - the DDM DC22.  The “air-leak” or the air dedicated to drive the turbo nozzle is a “plus” for the cyclonic’s (more/fast air, the better it filters).  The air-leak can be offset by the nozzles opening but we will have to wait and see.


DIB


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