Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

PS:  Note that the brush roll in the SEBO's P/N is 11 1/2 inches vice the DDM DC22 which is a 9 inch nozzle.  The dyson brush roll is probably as little as 7 inches in length.  Time will tell.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Can an 11 1/2" nozzle fit inside an 11 3/8" and smaller opening?  Should folks space all their furniture apart so to allow for this pn?  The more I think about it, the 9" nozzle should prove to be less of a hastle and a time saver (for many). 

You guys got me on a snipe hunt...  This is it?  This nozzle is based on a dinosaur!  It looks like Sebo, like many mfgs. are hyping another zero (measurable) user/mechanical benefit.  It’s junk!!        DIB

 << 1909 technology << 1909 technology

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thanks DIB for posting the diagrams and narrative on the SEBO P/N.  Impressive.  Please give us an example of a carpeted space in your home/home lived in by people that is larger than 9 inches and smaller than 11 1/2 inches.   Presumably if its smaller than 9 inches, then dyson is NG too.  So you're looking at a window of space of 2 1/2 inches where a dyson for $800 bests a SEBO for $900.  Is the smaller P/N and smaller vacuum with smaller dirt capacity worth a $100 savings over the full size SEBO C3.1.  SEBO is made in Germany [SEBO] vice Malaysia [dyson]?

Carmine D.

Carmine D. 

Also DIB, while you like to refer to SEBO's state of the art PN as 1909 technology, I might add 'steering' and 'manuverability' were both available on the tin lizzy that dates back even before 1909.  Using old technology in a new way doesn't make it state of the art for dyson and 'dinosaur' for SEBO.  Unless of course you are wearing rose colored dyson glasses.

Carmine D

What is with all this hub bub that a machine has to be a flyweight in order for the public to accept it?Are americans that lazy that they cannot wheel around something thats under 10lbs, Must it be steerable in order for it to work Does the average consumer even care that that can steer their vacuum cleaner?
I believe the customer would care more about how it cleans,I mean really what is all this high tech this and that .When i can take an electrolux modelG wirh a pn5,6,or 7 and bury them in dirt after they just wasted all that money on the dc22 now they have a 800.00 piece of art work that gets put to shame by a 45 year old vacuum ,I would want my money back.............

REGARDS

MOLE

mole wrote:
Hi MOLE,

The usual is happening -- features and technology are once again being touted over actual effectiveness of function. The larger part of vacuum buyers are not at all interested in weight unless it's really excessive ala the here and then gone 30 lb. Royal Powercast. Personally, my days of wrestling with Rainbow or Kirby on stairways are over. I've decided that, yes, life is too short. However, a 16- to 20-pound vacuum presents no problem for me.

The basic consumer questions still stand. Does it clean well? Is it easy to use? Will the price fit my wallet?

Venson

ABC Vacuum Warehouse is selling the DC22 Turbinehead for $450 brand new.  For such a new machine, I wonder if the merchant made the conscious decision to drop the Turbinehead pricing from $700 to $450, or it was Dyson's official pricing adjustment.  Either way, this is great news for consumers that may have a practical application for the DC22.

iMacDaddy wrote:

Using the same discount, if applicable, the DDM DC22 with p/n would be $550, or less [before discounts].  More in the realm of dyson's pricing and affordabilty.  Question still is does it sit well with the independent vacuum store owners/operators?  Or does it go the same sales route as all dysons:  Big box retail store venue? 

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

If the DDM DC22 doesn't fit the price of your wallet, at least it will fit in your wallet.  Bingo!  That's the cleaning area it serves better than the SEBO!  [If it had carpeting]!

Carmine D.

Carmine,

Come-on pick up your speed!  I through out the challenge already and you have not answered it...  The Challenge:  If a 9” nozzle is undersized as you and others claim, then by how much? - How much longer (time) would a 9” nozzle take to a clean a home or room? - Why don’t you vacuum any one of your rooms and post the time it took to vacuum.  Then tell us how much longer the highly maneuverable Dyson [F1] nozzle will take to clean the same room.


DIB