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DysonInventsBig


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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #142   Apr 7, 2009 1:04 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Unfortunately, what James and dyson has always lacked is an honest broker telling him what he needs to hear rather than what he wants to hear.

Carmine D.


Special features of the C-Series canister vacuums:

  • Durability- SEBO canisters are made to last
  • FULL-SIZE On-Board Tools
  • Rubber Coated Wheels prevent damage to floors and rotate 360o for easy maneuverability
  • Quick-release for ease of brush head change
  • FULL-SIZE Dust Bag
  • Telescopic tubes are standard for convenient handle-height adjustment.
  • Extremely Light-Weight
  • Access door for easy clog removal
  • Easy brush roller removal
  • Large contact control switches for power & cord retractor
  • 21-foot cord


DIB:

Did you download and read the PDF files for the SEBO P/N's?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #143   Apr 7, 2009 1:31 pm
CarmineD wrote:

Special features of the C-Series canister vacuums:

  • Durability- SEBO canisters are made to last
  • FULL-SIZE On-Board Tools
  • Rubber Coated Wheels prevent damage to floors and rotate 360o for easy maneuverability
  • Quick-release for ease of brush head change
  • FULL-SIZE Dust Bag
  • Telescopic tubes are standard for convenient handle-height adjustment.
  • Extremely Light-Weight
  • Access door for easy clog removal
  • Easy brush roller removal
  • Large contact control switches for power & cord retractor
  • 21-foot cord


DIB:

Did you download and read the PDF files for the SEBO P/N's?

Carmine D.


Sadly, I could not post the diagrams from the PDF for the SEBO P/N's.  If you peruse and read you'll note that the P/N necks on all the SEBO's 'swivel" 360 degrees right and left and up and down.  The "L" shaped nozzle [C3.1] allows cleaning around furniture legs.  Brush rolls in all the P/N's "pivot" up and down to adjust automatically to different rug height levels [read: articulate].  What else? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #144   Apr 7, 2009 1:43 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Sadly, I could not post the diagrams from the PDF for the SEBO P/N's.  If you peruse and read you'll note that the P/N necks on all the SEBO's 'swivel" 360 degrees right and left and up and down.  The "L" shaped nozzle [C3.1] allows cleaning around furniture legs.  Brush rolls in all the P/N's "pivot" up and down to adjust automatically to different rug height levels [read: articulate].  What else? 

Carmine D.


In other words, "steer" and "maneuver."    It's all there as Venson said but you have to look and read.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #145   Apr 7, 2009 1:48 pm
PS:  Note that the brush roll in the SEBO's P/N is 11 1/2 inches vice the DDM DC22 which is a 9 inch nozzle.  The dyson brush roll is probably as little as 7 inches in length.  Time will tell.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #146   Apr 7, 2009 3:02 pm
CarmineD wrote:
PS:  Note that the brush roll in the SEBO's P/N is 11 1/2 inches vice the DDM DC22 which is a 9 inch nozzle.  The dyson brush roll is probably as little as 7 inches in length.  Time will tell.

Carmine D.


Can an 11 1/2" nozzle fit inside an 11 3/8" and smaller opening?  Should folks space all their furniture apart so to allow for this pn?  The more I think about it, the 9" nozzle should prove to be less of a hastle and a time saver (for many). 

You guys got me on a snipe hunt...  This is it?  This nozzle is based on a dinosaur!  It looks like Sebo, like many mfgs. are hyping another zero (measurable) user/mechanical benefit.  It’s junk!!        DIB

 << 1909 technology << 1909 technology
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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #147   Apr 7, 2009 4:29 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Can an 11 1/2" nozzle fit inside an 11 3/8" and smaller opening?  Should folks space all their furniture apart so to allow for this pn?  The more I think about it, the 9" nozzle should prove to be less of a hastle and a time saver (for many). 

You guys got me on a snipe hunt...  This is it?  This nozzle is based on a dinosaur!  It looks like Sebo, like many mfgs. are hyping another zero (measurable) user/mechanical benefit.  It’s junk!!        DIB

 



Thanks DIB for posting the diagrams and narrative on the SEBO P/N.  Impressive.  Please give us an example of a carpeted space in your home/home lived in by people that is larger than 9 inches and smaller than 11 1/2 inches.   Presumably if its smaller than 9 inches, then dyson is NG too.  So you're looking at a window of space of 2 1/2 inches where a dyson for $800 bests a SEBO for $900.  Is the smaller P/N and smaller vacuum with smaller dirt capacity worth a $100 savings over the full size SEBO C3.1.  SEBO is made in Germany [SEBO] vice Malaysia [dyson]?

Carmine D.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #148   Apr 7, 2009 4:44 pm
Also DIB, while you like to refer to SEBO's state of the art PN as 1909 technology, I might add 'steering' and 'manuverability' were both available on the tin lizzy that dates back even before 1909.  Using old technology in a new way doesn't make it state of the art for dyson and 'dinosaur' for SEBO.  Unless of course you are wearing rose colored dyson glasses.

Carmine D

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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #149   Apr 7, 2009 9:17 pm
What is with all this hub bub that a machine has to be a flyweight in order for the public to accept it?Are americans that lazy that they cannot wheel around something thats under 10lbs, Must it be steerable in order for it to work Does the average consumer even care that that can steer their vacuum cleaner?
I believe the customer would care more about how it cleans,I mean really what is all this high tech this and that .When i can take an electrolux modelG wirh a pn5,6,or 7 and bury them in dirt after they just wasted all that money on the dc22 now they have a 800.00 piece of art work that gets put to shame by a 45 year old vacuum ,I would want my money back.............

REGARDS

MOLE
Venson


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #150   Apr 7, 2009 11:23 pm
mole wrote:
What is with all this hub bub that a machine has to be a flyweight in order for the public to accept it?Are americans that lazy that they cannot wheel around something thats under 10lbs, Must it be steerable in order for it to work Does the average consumer even care that that can steer their vacuum cleaner?

I believe the customer would care more about how it cleans,I mean really what is all this high tech this and that .When i can take an electrolux modelG wirh a pn5,6,or 7 and bury them in dirt after they just wasted all that money on the dc22 now they have a 800.00 piece of art work that gets put to shame by a 45 year old vacuum ,I would want my money back.............

REGARDS

MOLE

Hi MOLE,

The usual is happening -- features and technology are once again being touted over actual effectiveness of function. The larger part of vacuum buyers are not at all interested in weight unless it's really excessive ala the here and then gone 30 lb. Royal Powercast. Personally, my days of wrestling with Rainbow or Kirby on stairways are over. I've decided that, yes, life is too short. However, a 16- to 20-pound vacuum presents no problem for me.

The basic consumer questions still stand. Does it clean well? Is it easy to use? Will the price fit my wallet?

Venson
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #151   Apr 7, 2009 11:55 pm
ABC Vacuum Warehouse is selling the DC22 Turbinehead for $450 brand new.  For such a new machine, I wonder if the merchant made the conscious decision to drop the Turbinehead pricing from $700 to $450, or it was Dyson's official pricing adjustment.  Either way, this is great news for consumers that may have a practical application for the DC22.
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