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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm |
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~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~
James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.
 - Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
- The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
- The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.
 - The DDM is extremely powerful.
- The DDM can/will outlast its user.
- The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
- The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
- Controls are in the hose handle.
- A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle. Telescopic wand.
- A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update... - Exclusive: Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding. Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
- Exclusive: Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
- Exclusive: Patented Telescopic Wand: Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
- Exclusive: Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
- Motor burn out: If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
- Size: Small, DC05 - like. Compacts down via the patented TW.
- Controls: In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
- Retail: $799. Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.
This message was modified Mar 12, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
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CarmineD
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #138 Apr 6, 2009 7:42 am |
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Carmine,
Besides being condescending, patronizing and loud, what do you think those [some not all] independent con men can produce in the way of measurements or science that will dissuade those who prefer a lightweight steerable DC22’s nozzle over the traditional (heavy) 100 old swivel designs.
DIB
DIB:
The DDM DC22 has a very limited market and consumer appeal. Even less in bad economic times. Japanese market is not reflective of the rest of the world's consumers. In fact, just the opposite. Hence the reason James went into the Japanese market first to test the water with this model. If he went to the USA/UK market, the vacuum would bomb. It's less than niche seller. Only appeals to people with cramped quarters and extra cash to spend. Alot of the former, but not many of the latter. Carmine D.
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #139 Apr 6, 2009 7:55 am |
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DIB: The DDM DC22 has a very limited market and consumer appeal. Even less in bad economic times. Japanese market is not reflective of the rest of the world's consumers. In fact, just the opposite. Hence the reason James went into the Japanese market first to test the water with this model. If he went to the USA/UK market, the vacuum would bomb. It's less than niche seller. Only appeals to people with cramped quarters and extra cash to spend. Alot of the former, but not many of the latter. Carmine D.
No doubt DIB, the reason that the VDTA has been silent on this latest and greatest dyson creation. Not mainstream, overpriced, no market for sales, too too tiny to compete with the biggest and best on today's market. In other words, it's a loser. It will be shelved and archived in the USA quicker than the DC11.
Carmine D.
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #141 Apr 7, 2009 9:53 am |
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Hi DIB,
The link is as follows: http://www.wessel-werk.com/
Click on the "Download" link and all and you will see the major part of Wessel Werk floor tool, PNs, turbo tools and other accessories with downloadable PDF brochures. The EBK340 electric nozzle is the electric power nozzle that turns up on all sorts of brands from everywhere -- Bosch, Oreck Dutch Tech, Hyla, Big Power. It is also a popular addition to top-of-the-line central vacuum attachment sets.
Look at the straight suction floor tools as well. If you know Dyson's JH-25 combi-tool and compare it to the Wessel Werk you'll see it's the same design idea as the better combi-tools made at Wessel Werk.
You may download a PDF of the newest of Sebo's PNs, Model ET-H, at the following URL --http://www.sebo-vacuums.com/frameset.htm?dir=Products
Venson Hi Venson,
I'd like to see these. Could you post some links?
Thanks,
DIB
Hi DIB,
The link is as follows: http://www.wessel-werk.com/
Click on the "Download" link and all and you will see the major part of Wessel Werk floor tool, PNs, turbo tools and other accessories with downloadable PDF brochures. The EBK340 electric nozzle is the electric power nozzle that turns up on all sorts of brands from everywhere -- Bosch, Oreck Dutch Tech, Hyla, Big Power. It is also a popular addition to top-of-the-line central vacuum attachment sets.
Look at the straight suction floor tools as well. If you know Dyson's JH-25 combi-tool and compare it to the Wessel Werk you'll see it's the same design idea as the better combi-tools made at Wessel Werk.
You may download a PDF of the newest of Sebo's PNs, Model ET-H, at the following URL --http://www.sebo-vacuums.com/frameset.htm?dir=Products
Venson Hello Venson, I do not see what you see... power nozzles that steer. I followed your instructions and only saw more of the same, that is... power nozzles that swivel side-to-side and articulate up-and-down (a 100 year old industry standard). Am I missing something? DIB
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #142 Apr 7, 2009 1:04 pm |
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Unfortunately, what James and dyson has always lacked is an honest broker telling him what he needs to hear rather than what he wants to hear. Carmine D. Special features of the C-Series canister vacuums: - Durability- SEBO canisters are made to last
- FULL-SIZE On-Board Tools
- Rubber Coated Wheels prevent damage to floors and rotate 360o for easy maneuverability
- Quick-release for ease of brush head change
- FULL-SIZE Dust Bag
- Telescopic tubes are standard for convenient handle-height adjustment.
- Extremely Light-Weight
- Access door for easy clog removal
- Easy brush roller removal
- Large contact control switches for power & cord retractor
- 21-foot cord
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DIB:
Did you download and read the PDF files for the SEBO P/N's? Carmine D.
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #143 Apr 7, 2009 1:31 pm |
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Special features of the C-Series canister vacuums: - Durability- SEBO canisters are made to last
- FULL-SIZE On-Board Tools
- Rubber Coated Wheels prevent damage to floors and rotate 360o for easy maneuverability
- Quick-release for ease of brush head change
- FULL-SIZE Dust Bag
- Telescopic tubes are standard for convenient handle-height adjustment.
- Extremely Light-Weight
- Access door for easy clog removal
- Easy brush roller removal
- Large contact control switches for power & cord retractor
- 21-foot cord
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DIB:
Did you download and read the PDF files for the SEBO P/N's? Carmine D.
Sadly, I could not post the diagrams from the PDF for the SEBO P/N's. If you peruse and read you'll note that the P/N necks on all the SEBO's 'swivel" 360 degrees right and left and up and down. The "L" shaped nozzle [C3.1] allows cleaning around furniture legs. Brush rolls in all the P/N's "pivot" up and down to adjust automatically to different rug height levels [read: articulate]. What else?
Carmine D.
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #144 Apr 7, 2009 1:43 pm |
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Sadly, I could not post the diagrams from the PDF for the SEBO P/N's. If you peruse and read you'll note that the P/N necks on all the SEBO's 'swivel" 360 degrees right and left and up and down. The "L" shaped nozzle [C3.1] allows cleaning around furniture legs. Brush rolls in all the P/N's "pivot" up and down to adjust automatically to different rug height levels [read: articulate]. What else? Carmine D.
In other words, "steer" and "maneuver."  It's all there as Venson said but you have to look and read.
Carmine D.
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #146 Apr 7, 2009 3:02 pm |
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PS: Note that the brush roll in the SEBO's P/N is 11 1/2 inches vice the DDM DC22 which is a 9 inch nozzle. The dyson brush roll is probably as little as 7 inches in length. Time will tell. Carmine D. Can an 11 1/2" nozzle fit inside an 11 3/8" and smaller opening? Should folks space all their furniture apart so to allow for this pn? The more I think about it, the 9" nozzle should prove to be less of a hastle and a time saver (for many). You guys got me on a snipe hunt... This is it? This nozzle is based on a dinosaur! It looks like Sebo, like many mfgs. are hyping another zero (measurable) user/mechanical benefit. It’s junk!! DIB  << 1909 technology  << 1909 technology
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #147 Apr 7, 2009 4:29 pm |
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Can an 11 1/2" nozzle fit inside an 11 3/8" and smaller opening? Should folks space all their furniture apart so to allow for this pn? The more I think about it, the 9" nozzle should prove to be less of a hastle and a time saver (for many). You guys got me on a snipe hunt... This is it? This nozzle is based on a dinosaur! It looks like Sebo, like many mfgs. are hyping another zero (measurable) user/mechanical benefit. It’s junk!! DIB
Thanks DIB for posting the diagrams and narrative on the SEBO P/N. Impressive. Please give us an example of a carpeted space in your home/home lived in by people that is larger than 9 inches and smaller than 11 1/2 inches. Presumably if its smaller than 9 inches, then dyson is NG too. So you're looking at a window of space of 2 1/2 inches where a dyson for $800 bests a SEBO for $900. Is the smaller P/N and smaller vacuum with smaller dirt capacity worth a $100 savings over the full size SEBO C3.1. SEBO is made in Germany [SEBO] vice Malaysia [dyson]?
Carmine D. Carmine D.
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