Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

DysonInventsBig wrote:

YES, YES, YES.  You're not listening/reading.  Look at any of the HOOVER/TTI cann power nozzles today and in the past.  Get your ruler out.  Measure.  Record.  Then compare to the DDM DC22 9 inch nozzle.  Tell us the differences, PLEASE!!!  So we can move on from this absurd litany of obfuscation.

Carmine D.

On another note DIB, your complete lack of understanding and knowledge on how vacuums do/should work are not the fault of others but with you.  You need to get up to speed before you deride others for your lack of comprehension.  Again, you and dyson have to provide the selling features of this new model for $800 a pop, not us.  It's got 820 patents.  Yes, but which of these is for a 9 inch power head nozzle?

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote: CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

You do not have to get mad because you don’t have the answer.


Since this vacuum is for residential use (aka an obstacle course) the 9" pn or highly lightweight, highly maneuverable (DC18-like steering) will fit into, around, through, sculpt/cut around much and will prove be a breath of fresh air and better alternative for many

If it is undersized for open spaces then we are only talking a matter of seconds to push/pull the wand and pn to clean an open space (compared to a larger pn).
If a user has to stop and move a coffee table, basket, etc because a large pn cannot fit, then this is down time.  The argument of a larger nozzle as a better tool for many homes, condos, apartments is moot and a marketing ploy by mfgs.  Do not believe me?  Put a stop watch on it, count all the strokes, count all the downtime and see for yourself.


DIB

CarmineD wrote:

Boy-oh-boy, you never quit!  The Dyson PN has the worlds only/exclusive only to Dyson - steerable powerhead (that I am aware of).  Are you unable to see the DC18-like roller/steerable wheel[s], or just unwilling?

This system has long been established as a way to steer a vacuum cleaner (DC18) and power nozzle (DC21).


DIB

Remember:  If you beat on it, then be prepared to back it up.

DIB:

I would half-heartedly and rather reluctantly cave to your non-sensical time/effort arguments about the baby size power nozzle if the latest dyson model didn't come with a $700/$800 price tag.  Plus, the DC18 nozzle is soooo good according to you that dyson discontinued the model?  Steerable and manuverable?  Come on.  It's 9 inches.  What's to steer and manuever?  It's a petite play size power head!  I have a play toy bissell pink carpet sweeper that my granddaugters enjoy using.  It dates from the 1950's.  Like your DDM DC22 it has a 9 inch cleaning swath and a 7 1/2 inch brush roll.  Used daily, it will do the clean up job as well and as quick as the DDM DC22.  Probably holds the same amount of dirt in its dual dirt bins too.  AND it's a classic!  Appreciated in value over the years. 

You still aren't convincing me/us on this dyson model.  No wonder there is nothing coming out of the VDTA on this model. 

Carmine D.

BTW, that BISSELL play toy carpet sweeper with the same size nozzle and brush roll as your $800 dyson is called the "Little Queen."    Don't you love it!  Tell you what I'll do, I'll consider a trade if you are willing to fork up some cash to boot with your DDM DC22 in the exchange [if my 3 granddaughters agree].

Carmine D.

Carmine,

I do not post to try to convince you or other Dyson rock-throwers of anything.  I float out Dyson info and see what kind of negative response it attracts.  You and others have not let me down.  Thanks.

DIB

CarmineD wrote:

Don't forget the toy Oreck and Hoover Platinum.  They are not full sized vacs so they must be toys.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hi DIB,

Please carefully check out Wessel Werks power nozzles AND straight suction nozzles as well. They are just as steerable.

The small wheels on the Little Dyson model's body do not perform the same as swivel casters. They are intended for easy back and forth motion as is the roller on the PN's neck. The portion of the neck that swivels to the right or left appears to attach directly at the PNs body. The portion of the neck that pivots up and down allows better accommodation for users of different heights and lets the cleaning wand be brought flat to the floor for cleaning under low items like beds and sofas.

Wessel Werks nozzles do about the same thing the pivot joints are switched and steer just as easily with merely a twist of the wrist. Wessel Werks' vertical swivel joint (up and down movement) happens at the attachment point on the body and the right to left swivel point follows. However, there is no short hose to bridge the gap. That design was to improve maneuverability but lessen maintenance problems as Eureka and Hoover and a few other PN producers had tried the same flexible hose thing on PNs years ago and gave it up.

What I did like about the Dyson mini PN is that per the images supplied, the brushroll comes away from the drive at the end of its chamber with just a quarter-turn of a screw meaning no fussing around taking off or putting on a belt. However, similar idea are already in longtime use -- check out Sebo.

Best,

Venson

Hi Venson,

I'd like to see these.  Could you post some links?

Thanks,
DIB