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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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DysonInventsBig


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #121   Apr 4, 2009 5:33 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Often enthusiasts and independents attack Dyson products with weak arguments.  Show them how to build a good argument...  Q:  Why is a 9” nozzle a bad thing?

DIB
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:  You're still in April Fool's mode!  Too small.  Worthless for users except as a quick picker upper.  Just like the whole DDM DC22 vacuum!  Too small.  The brush roll revolves in the wrong direction too.  A point made very early on in the thread.  Re-read. 

Carmine D.


...You gave your opinion again. - Your posts read like you “haven't a clue”.

  1. Can you demonstrate (by evidence or a sound argument) why this 9” wide nozzle is inferior to a larger/wider nozzle?
  2. Can you tell us what width size would make for “the ideal nozzle”?


DIB
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #122   Apr 4, 2009 5:52 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I'm a tad longer in the tooth than you.  Back in my day when a lady called out to you on the bed and said: Here it tis!  If you accomodated her, it was not called 'screwing' it was called 'mutual consent.'  Apparently, MOLE feels the same.  All in all, based on the stories here posted about used and second hand dysons, I'd say a Lux crevice tool and 6 bags for an unwanted soon to be discontinued dyson DC14, with a worthless and useless clutch, is an even exchange.  Soon former dyson owners will be giving them away.  Wonder who it was here who said: Before you ever see a dyson at a yard sale, I'll die from a heart attack.  He must have more lifes that Walter Mitty because if this were true he would have died one 1000 deaths already. 

Carmine D.



You are also shorter in the sight.  Nothing was said about the clutch.  BTW, ladies do not do as you described. The men who do as you say are called whore hoppers. Not lady hoppers.

How many vacs have you given away? 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #123   Apr 4, 2009 5:54 pm
DIB:

Your naivity is intensely excruciating.  You'd be better served to say its an April Fool's canarde than continue with this useless narration.  You're killing Venson, iMacDaddy, MOLE and I woith this absurd line of questions.  You're lost.   Because I like you and I can't stand to see you make an unending fool of yourself, please do all of us here a huge favor.  If you have any vacuums close by, get them all.  Uprights.  Canns with/wo power heads.  Hand vacuums.  Sticks. etc.  Then get a ruler, inches or metric and measure the lengths of the cleaning heads/floor/rug nozzles.  Then report back here your findings.  Maybe, hopefully, once you have collected the evidence for yourself by your own hand you can draw some conclusions on why a 9 inch nozzle that probably has a 7 inch brush roll, that revolves c/clockwise [unlike industry standard brushes which is a topic for another thread so not to confuse you with too much information at one time] at an MSRP of $800 is a complete and utter waste of buyers' money.

Carmine D.

 

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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #124   Apr 4, 2009 6:03 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You are also shorter in the sight.  Nothing was said about the clutch. 



Save that dyson finally after over 6 years has officially scrubbed it from all its USA uprights!  What does that tell you?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #125   Apr 4, 2009 6:07 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
...You gave your opinion again. - Your posts read like you “haven't a clue”.

  1. Can you tell us what width size would make for “the ideal nozzle”?


DIB



YES, YES, YES.  You're not listening/reading.  Look at any of the HOOVER/TTI cann power nozzles today and in the past.  Get your ruler out.  Measure.  Record.  Then compare to the DDM DC22 9 inch nozzle.  Tell us the differences, PLEASE!!!  So we can move on from this absurd litany of obfuscation.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #126   Apr 4, 2009 6:12 pm
On another note DIB, your complete lack of understanding and knowledge on how vacuums do/should work are not the fault of others but with you.  You need to get up to speed before you deride others for your lack of comprehension.  Again, you and dyson have to provide the selling features of this new model for $800 a pop, not us.  It's got 820 patents.  Yes, but which of these is for a 9 inch power head nozzle?

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #127   Apr 5, 2009 2:18 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
...You gave your opinion again. - Your posts read like you “haven't a clue”.

  1. Can you tell us what width size would make for “the ideal nozzle”?


DIB
CarmineD wrote:
YES, YES, YES.  You're not listening/reading.  Look at any of the HOOVER/TTI cann power nozzles today and in the past.  Get your ruler out.  Measure.  Record.  Then compare to the DDM DC22 9 inch nozzle.  Tell us the differences, PLEASE!!!  So we can move on from this absurd litany of obfuscation.

Carmine D.


Carmine,

You do not have to get mad because you don’t have the answer.


Since this vacuum is for residential use (aka an obstacle course) the 9" pn or highly lightweight, highly maneuverable (DC18-like steering) will fit into, around, through, sculpt/cut around much and will prove be a breath of fresh air and better alternative for many

If it is undersized for open spaces then we are only talking a matter of seconds to push/pull the wand and pn to clean an open space (compared to a larger pn).
If a user has to stop and move a coffee table, basket, etc because a large pn cannot fit, then this is down time.  The argument of a larger nozzle as a better tool for many homes, condos, apartments is moot and a marketing ploy by mfgs.  Do not believe me?  Put a stop watch on it, count all the strokes, count all the downtime and see for yourself.


DIB
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #128   Apr 5, 2009 2:35 pm
CarmineD wrote:
On another note DIB, your complete lack of understanding and knowledge on how vacuums do/should work are not the fault of others but with you.  You need to get up to speed before you deride others for your lack of comprehension.  Again, you and dyson have to provide the selling features of this new model for $800 a pop, not us.  It's got 820 patents.  Yes, but which of these is for a 9 inch power head nozzle?

Carmine D.



Boy-oh-boy, you never quit!  The Dyson PN has the worlds only/exclusive only to Dyson - steerable powerhead (that I am aware of).  Are you unable to see the DC18-like roller/steerable wheel[s], or just unwilling?

This system has long been established as a way to steer a vacuum cleaner (DC18) and power nozzle (DC21).


DIB

Remember:  If you beat on it, then be prepared to back it up.
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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #129   Apr 5, 2009 5:10 pm
DIB:

I would half-heartedly and rather reluctantly cave to your non-sensical time/effort arguments about the baby size power nozzle if the latest dyson model didn't come with a $700/$800 price tag.  Plus, the DC18 nozzle is soooo good according to you that dyson discontinued the model?  Steerable and manuverable?  Come on.  It's 9 inches.  What's to steer and manuever?  It's a petite play size power head!  I have a play toy bissell pink carpet sweeper that my granddaugters enjoy using.  It dates from the 1950's.  Like your DDM DC22 it has a 9 inch cleaning swath and a 7 1/2 inch brush roll.  Used daily, it will do the clean up job as well and as quick as the DDM DC22.  Probably holds the same amount of dirt in its dual dirt bins too.  AND it's a classic!  Appreciated in value over the years. 

You still aren't convincing me/us on this dyson model.  No wonder there is nothing coming out of the VDTA on this model. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #130   Apr 5, 2009 5:17 pm
BTW, that BISSELL play toy carpet sweeper with the same size nozzle and brush roll as your $800 dyson is called the "Little Queen."    Don't you love it!  Tell you what I'll do, I'll consider a trade if you are willing to fork up some cash to boot with your DDM DC22 in the exchange [if my 3 granddaughters agree].

Carmine D.

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